Quote:Yesterdays episode really upset me by the way Holden and Lily was acting towards Luke for helping finding out who killed his friend. I can understand Margo's reaction. She is a cop but Holden. It was too long ago that Holden was involved in finding out who kidnapped Meg. Carly went out in search of JJ along with Jack. But it is not ok for Luke to do some investigating himself. And what's with Noah not supporting Luke in this. I'm beginning to think that Noah is not the right guy for Luke after all. It just seems to me that Noah only supports Luke when it benefits Noah. Maybe I'm wrong in this, but I think Noah, Holden and Lily would want to help. Just my opinion. I respectfully disagree Noah is supporting Luke but the thing is that he doesn't want Luke to wind up in jail. Margo could have easily put Luke in jail yesterday because he's broken several laws but she didn't. Noah has been the voice of reason and trying to get Luke to find a better way of going about this investigation that doesn't put him in danger or serving jail time. Noah has said that he doesn't want to lose Luke and he keeps saying that. Yesterday Noah took some of the blame on the breaking and entering thing that Luke had done when Noah didn't break into Elwoods room but instead he took some of the blame even when he didn't have to or shouldn't have taken. I think that alone shows that he's supporting Luke and standing by his side. When he told Lily and Holden what else had been going on he did the right thing because now everyone can try and help Luke before its too late. Luke knows that Noah loves him unconditionally and if Noah didn't care then he would just let Luke do whatever he wanted.

I think Lily, Holden, and Noah are helpng Luke, just not the kind of help Luke wants. Luke is determined not to listen to Margo's warnings, and his family doesn't want him to end up in jail, or worse, so they're telling Luke like it is. Sometimes you have to love someone enough to tell them what they DON"T want to hear, and I think that's what Lily, Holden, and Luke did FOR Luke and not TO Luke. Encouraging Luke to keep breaking the law (breaking and entering, for one)by keeping silent, would be a way for them not to help Luke. And, actually, as I am watchng today's show, Margo and Tom are treating Casey exactly like Lily, Holden, and Noah treated Luke yesterday.

I thought Holden was terrific yesterday. I thought he said what Luke needed to hear but too bad Luke won't follow it. Luke is on probation and if he screws up, he goes to jail. That is something that nobody you mentioned had to deal with. I also didn't see those people involved in trying to set somebody up or planting evidence. It's one thing to want to find out what happened but Luke's methods are totally wrong and he's out of control as is Casey. I also really enjoyed Noah. He was trying to turn it into something positive and to help keep Luke from going to prison.

Luke didn't plant drugs on Elwood that was Casey doing. Though I admit when Luke found out about it he should have said something. I remember a time when Lily and Carly broke into Julia house looking and I'm sure Holden hid evidence from the police to protect Lily. I do agree that Luke needs to keep his nose clean and let the police do their job. But, I can't blame him for trying to solve a crime for his friend. Luke should learn to become a Private Investigator and maybe the resources will be available to him. I do commend Noah for helping Luke use some tof the charity funds for Reg. That was a good idea.

I know Luke & Nuke & Noah can do no wrong and I am probly the only one who thinks this but... Luke is a whiny! And he's been whiny and a downer for a while now. And he's been making one mistake after another and then gets whiny and drunk over the consequences.

I just got done watching a video interveiw with Van ankd Jake Van said Luke is starting to act like his Bio dad.video at afterelton

Luke's wanting justice for his friend is an admirable thing...but his family only stepped in, when he went so far as to commit a crime trying to solve one. Breaking the law in the name of justice is still breaking the law, and I think Luke's family saw him heading down the wrong path, and stepped in because they love him.

Quote:I just got done watching a video interveiw with Van ankd Jake Van said Luke is starting to act like his Bio dad.video at afterelton Yeah. Even before that video was posted, I started to suspect that the writers were attempting to make Luke a little less innocent so he could get in touch with his inner Grimaldi. I heard many people point out over the past year that Luke was too sweet and too much of a goody goody to be Damian's son. Now that he'll be returning next month and with Luke being at odds with family members, I'm sure Damian will take that opportunity to weasle back into Luke's life.

I don't agree that Noah isn't supporting Luke. I think Noah is supporting Luke this time. He hasn't broken up with him again. I just wish they weren't writing Noah acting like Luke's dad instead of his lover.

As for Luke's dark side, I have no doubt Van will pull it off. However, I can almost guarantee that the lack of airtime will hurt the story in a major way. He is on so infrequently that you really can't tell what Luke's purpose is. I'm not sure I trust the writers. They have already dropped the ball on the Kevin/Election story and the drinking storyline. Unless they can put the good writing, time and engergy into Luke's character, why bother? I have no desire to see Luke turned into a gay Paul Ryan or a mini Damian unless there is really good airtime and writing to back it up.

Having Luke get in touch with his inner Grimaldi could only improve and flesh out the character. Luke is Grimaldi/Walsh/Snyder.... he should be one of the most complex characters on this show with dark and light shadings. I'm glad the show knocked off his halo last year and have no desire to ever see it put back on.

I agree....the problem wasn't Luke's bad streaks, in my opinion, it was that they never (until now) wrote Noah so that he accepted both the good and the bad in Luke....and vice versa. Seems like they are now though, and I think both characters are much better for it.

I think today's episode with Luke and Noah was great. Especially those bench scenes. But the writers are still rubbing me the wrong way with the way they rewrite history or just keep sloppy notes. Didn't Luke start this foundation to help sick children? That comment he made to Lucinda about wanting to stick it to Damian would have made more sense if the foundation was started to battling for gay rights or something along those lines. As messed up as Damian is, I can't see him being annoyed over Luke wanting to help sick children, especially since Luke WAS a sick child once who needed a kidney transplant. This whole foundation issue has been handled very sloppily for a long time. Once Brian married Lucinda and then made the moves on Luke while he was drunk, it went away. Now that we're back to it, the writers can't seem to make up their minds on what it focuses on. Am I missing something?

Maybe it just has a wide - spread focus, and does things in several areas at once....equal rights, environmental issues (project GreenUp for example) helping sick children...it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for it to have to be more than just one thing.