mrskaz, I join you in being sickened by this. To have a great character like Zach and a great actor like TK reduced to this level is disgusting. You are so right. With Kendall out of action it would have been the perfect time to keep Zach busy with an interesting corporate story--something with Cambias, possibly involving Adam--thus serving the additional purpose of giving DC something to do worthy of his talents.Binks and Reese could have come to town preggers by an anonymous donor. They could have dealt with all the expected problems of a gay couple wanting to marry and become parents. They could have still dealt with problems with Reese's father's disapproval, etc. Zach could have been the supportive brother in law. Zach could have sat by Kendall's bed on NYE and they could have shown flashbacks (Zach's memories) of the NYE when they committed to each other. Instead Zach was holding the lesbians' purses. We could have been treated to a moving episode that would have meant the world to fans. Obviously Pratt never intended to give us a ground breaking lesbian story because he felt it couldn't stand on its own without a man--the leading man of AMC--in the middle of it.This is hack writing. No creativity, no integrity, no social conscious. I agree I see nothing to look forward to in 2009. I purposely missed 4 out the 5 shows last week after watching nearly every day for 20 years.If Pratt doesn't do something quickly to restore Zendall to their proper place, I don't see much hope for this show.

Quote: This is hack writing. No creativity, no integrity, no social conscious. I agree I see nothing to look forward to in 2009. I purposely missed 4 out the 5 shows last week after watching nearly every day for 20 years. You are not alone.... Many of us tune out more than in these days and it's not just because of the Reeks/Zach/Kendall story either...There's nothing on AMC that he hasn't ruined and it seems the destruction will continue to the detriment of the show... Quote: If Pratt doesn't do something quickly to restore Zendall to their proper place, I don't see much hope for this show ITA, but will add that it's not just Zendall he needs to fix.... Tad, Jangie, etc...I hate what Pratt has done to the character of Zach and I even hate what he's done to the character of BB...I used to love Bianca, but Pratt's version of BB and the not so gound breaking story about a same sex couple has the large majority of fans hoping that when she leaves this time, she doesn't return..Reese is a character that no one cares about... She just isn't catching onto viewers...due to the fact that she is poorly written..If Pratt's idea of ground breaking is a wedding for a same sex couple that he needs to be fired pronto..Ground breaking would have been to actually tell the story about a same sex couple....dealing with RL issues...Proposition 8, peoples prejudices, Reese parents, ect...The BOB was the first sign that Pratt lied.... Adding Zach cemented that point...I feel so bad for TK....Hell, I even feel bad for ER/TB.... In interviews they said they signed on for the sole purpose to tell a ground breaking story about a same sex couple.... They can't be happy about the turn of events in the story... The deep seated hatred for their characters from viewers, and the destruction of other characters...All the actors/actresses on AMC deserve better than this... and so do we fans...TK/AM haven't had a decent story for a long time.... Last year, was a mess with all the Ryan/GL, Rylee propping... This year, it's gotten worse..I keep seeing all over the boards and talking to friends that they are just completely disgusted with AMC, Pratt's writing, and Frons inability to get it...If they don't do something soon, AMC will not make it..I loved the articles written by Mala & Julie because they were dead on.....Changes need to be made and fast, but I don't see them changing anything..Hell, Pratt is like every other writer that AMC has had, he thinks Ryan is a good guy/hero....so that should tell us something..My condolences to TK, ER, TB... They are way too talented to be stuck in this disgusting s/l.

And then to add insult to injury, we have Ryan being the moral code for Kendal and the rest of Pine Valleyl. When speaking about Zach..Ryan says Zach should have told her about the sperm donation (a ridiculous plot driven storyline if I ever saw one) and when speaking to Bianca, he tells her that the idea to trap Reese with Zach is going to be a big mistake.

Ryan is the voice of reason? Is this the same Ryan that moved another woman into his bed while his STILL wife is in the hospital suffering a nervous breakdown? Is this the same Ryan that has said all he wants to do is be a good father to his children,,, and pawned all of them off on relatives so he could spend the night with Greenlee on both Christmas Eve and New Year's. Hello..this is the first year your daughter is without her mother...and the ink isn't even dry on the divorce paper...and you are talking wedding plans and making it sound like a good thing that Greenlee is shacking up in your home in front of a child. Yup..lets just replace one mother with another..no biggie. UGH.

Is this the same Ryan that drugged Zach to make him spill info on Alexander Cambius when he didn't believe what Zach was telling him? Is this the same Ryan that told Kendall she was nuts to think there was anything wrong with Annie?

And Ryan is the good guy here? Zach who every day is suffering knowing his wife may die is stuck in a storyline bringing drinks and giving comfort to two immature women who rushed into a relationship and motherhood...and donating sperm because Reese was so "cool". And Ryan is the one announcing to Greenlee..of all people..that the people involved are not handing things correctly and that others are wrong?

Gimmme a break.

I have to stay away from this forum! Pratt has ruined AMC so much so, that it breaks my heart to read how unhappy people are.No one listens to the fans anymore!

Paul, I wouldn't stay away from this forum....Yes, we are all upset, disgusted, frustrated, angry, and sad, but too tell the truth, this is a great place to get it all out...I do agree about Pratt ruining AMC... He's continuing the distruction that started with McTavish and the mess the B&E created, but as much as I hate the writing, IMHO blame should fall solely in Brian Frons lap...He hires these morons and allows them to destory anything and everything that's good, interesting, and fans love all the while pushing what fans hate, pushing us out the door.I'm starting to wonder if maybe Frons is secretely working for another network to keep ABC daytime tanking so they can draw ABC viewers over to their network...Just a thought...Hang in there, it can only get worse.... considering what Pratt's 2009 previews say and the fact that Ryan is still the character they are promoting as good guy/hero....

Quote:Paul, I wouldn't stay away from this forum....Yes, we are all upset, disgusted, frustrated, angry, and sad, but too tell the truth, this is a great place to get it all out...I do agree about Pratt ruining AMC... He's continuing the distruction that started with McTavish and the mess the B&E created, but as much as I hate the writing, IMHO blame should fall solely in Brian Frons lap...He hires these morons and allows them to destory anything and everything that's good, interesting, and fans love all the while pushing what fans hate, pushing us out the door.I'm starting to wonder if maybe Frons is secretely working for another network to keep ABC daytime tanking so they can draw ABC viewers over to their network...Just a thought...Hang in there, it can only get worse.... considering what Pratt's 2009 previews say and the fact that Ryan is still the character they are promoting as good guy/hero.... And let's not let Anne Sweeney off the hook. She allows Frons to stay on and does nothing to rein him in. I had hopes that a woman in such a high position would bode well for the direction ABC Daytime would take--that she might have a better handle on what women want---romance, family, socially conscious stories that are relevant (not phony like spermgate), less violent, more respectful of women. But no. She does nothing. And Frons and Pratt continue their reign of terror and the destruction of our soap.

Quote:I'm sorry, but just when I think Pratt's writing can't get any worse, he proves me wrong..We all know that the sperm gate stroy is a bust, as is the so-called ground breaking story about a same sex couple that we have yet to see, but to use the character of Zach or any male character for that matter, as angst for Reeks is ridiculous, stupid, sickening, and more bad writing..I feel sorry for TK.... The character of Zach has done nothing, but carry around purses for 2 years now... This would have been a great time to give TK/Zach a meaty story... "Zach hits the bottle" while Kendall's in a coma, Zach could have turned to the bottle... Have Erica, maybe even JR help him see that he needs help..They could have had Zach do battle with Adam over something, but no, Zach must carry the purses for the lesbians now...There are enough RL issues that Pratt could have used to give Reeks angst, but instead he ruined it by adding a man and not just any man, the man...This story continues to sickening and turn viewers away, not to mention do more damage to 2 characters....BB looks more and more like a moron... .She acts like she's 12 years old... No brain... Selfish, self-serving, dim witted gnat..Zach looks bored for the most part....Reese, I don't care about and never will... She's on too much as it is....she's a new character that didn't have a chance from the get go because Pratt decided to use shock & sensationalism, instead of writing a good story.I have to wonder if anyone else feels sickened by this latest turn of events.. .Just another way to keep from telling the so-called ground breaking story about a same sex couple... How can you do that when one part of the couple may or may not be gay??Wondering if SOD/SOW is getting mail from disgusted viewers on this turn of events???Just plain stupid...I fear for 2009 and have very little hope that AMC will make to 2010 with Pratt as the HW and Frons at the helm.... mrskaz,Mr, Pratt's writing is not only getting worse, it's getting barbaric. He has destroyed legacy characters left and right....Jessie is an unfaithful liar; Angie is a doormat;Tad is going to be only who knows what and David is going too far. Zach..oh Zach what he did here is just savage.Bianca's reaction to her suspicians of Reese and Zach was something a seventh grader might do. What happened to the principled, thoughtful and mature young woman who survived such a life altering experience and came out it with a heightened sense of maturity and integrity? He has made her into a selfcentered, selfish betraying brat with no remorse or feeling for her sister or her sister's marriage because she wanted something she couldn't have except by betraying her sister. Maybe she shouldn't have it! TK is far too talented to be invovled in this moronic storyline. I work in a profession where everyone must be credentialed and experienced. But I have found that very often, having many letters after your name does not translate into capable. Being qualified is not the same as capable.I believe Mr.Pratt to be a very experienced and credentialed writer, but perhaps not for AMC?When you have been handed a respected and revered object, or in this case, a revered show with legacy characters, why would you set out to destroy it? You already have something beautiful in your hands, why ugly it up?You were entrusted to make it better not destroy it.I don't want AMC covered in moth balls, but for heaven's sake, I would like to recognize it.

I don't hate Bianca or Zach for what they did to Kendall. It was terrible and completely weird but far from the worst betrayal I've seen on soaps. However, I do think this baby gate story is awful and completely out of character for the both of them. Pratt's writing is already starting to make B&E's stories look character driven. There is something really sadistic and ugly about AMC right now. There is little heart and its shallow and dark. Where is the romance?Where is the fun? This isn't entertainmnet its torture.Anyways, I agree that putting Zach as a spoiler for Bianca and Reese is a dumb development. How can they honestly say this is a lesbian storyline when Reese is with Zach most of the time and the main conflcit in the story is about whether or not Reese is realy gay? They've diluted Bianca and Reese's relationship.They've also diluted the same-sex family story with Zach always bonding with Gabrielle. There have been all these comments about how great he is with Gabrielle and how he is the only one who can calm her down. He's had way more sweet moments with Gabrielle than Bianca and Reese combined.So the story that was supposedly about two women in love and raising a family isn't about either of those things.

Quote: Pratt's writing is already starting to make B&E's stories look character driven. There is something really sadistic and ugly about AMC right now. There is little heart and its shallow and dark. Where is the romance?Where is the fun? This isn't entertainmnet its torture. ITA.... Pratt seems to want to destroy everything that works, that's good, interesting, and watchable, and replace it with uninteresting, unrootable, unwatchable crap...There were so many other RL issues that Pratt could have tackled with this story.... but instead he choose something stupid, pathetic, and the same damn story they tell for BB every single time.... BB gets involved with yet another sexually confused woman....Pratt seems to be taking hits for every story he has going right now and even for the interveiws he's given about what's to come in 2009Changes need to happen now....Right now...April can't come soon enough for me.... I can't wait to see Reeks take a hike, but how much damage will be done before they finally go..... BB is not welcomed back by the large majority of fans and, as far as Reek goes, good riddance to bad rubbish... The only think that would make Reeks leaving better is if somehow they take Ryan with them....Now, RYan gone would definitely be an improvement...JMHO

You know what is totally sad to me?

TK is one of my favorite actors on AMC and I am reduced to being GLAD and RELIEVED when he has a day off and Zach on not on the show. This way I don't have to watch the mess they have made of his character and the lack of use they have made of TK's acting skills.

Darnell/Jesse is probably my next fav actor on the show..and frankly..I am glad when he is not on the show as well. Watching him in this ridiculous storyline of fathering a child like two minutes after he left Angie (for her own safety 20 years ago) and keeping it a secret until recently..and now all happily living together under one roof is just embarrassing. Top that off with it being honored that Jesse walked out on a woman that devoted her life to him for 20 years and that's supposed to be a good thing. That is almost as ludicrous about the sperm donation stuff.

It's sad and pathetic that I am happy when my favorites are not on the show.

You know what's also sad and pathetic, IMHO....that the actors/actresses have to spend every waking minute giving interviews in an attempt to do damage control and can't..TB is constantly trying to explain Reeks actions.... and trying to get viewers to buy that she is a lesbian, in love with BB, and just Zach's good friend, probably knowing that this isn't playing out that way and it's not the story PRatt is pushing... Poor girl..Once again, this the latest issue of SOD, they have another spoiler about Zach and BB not so lesbain partner getting caught in another plot driven awkward moment, and TB explains that Zach and Reek are just close friends..Pratt continues to screw up.... Yesterday's show was a joke....In 6 minutes, you have BB witnessing yet another plot driven hug with Zach and Reek, running her car off the road, off-screen of course, Zach finding out, telling Reek, the hospital scene that made BB look even more childish, pathetic, and stupid than she already did..BB accusing Zach of cheating on Kendall and Zach not belng allowed to call her out, Reeks break up, BB has flashbacks of all the plot driven awkward moments, Reeks is packing, Zach comes in and Reeks is crying, whinning about not being about to leave, but then again when is she not whining, BB shows up, all is setteled....Now, we are back to the BS awkward plot driven vomit inducing scenes of Zach and BB's not so Cool, sexually confused partner..GMAB..What story is Pratt telling because it's not a love story for Reeks.....and not about a lesbian couple..I feel so sorry for TK.... He's way to talented for this crap..Hell, I even feel sorry for ER & TB.... This can't be the story Pratt sold them on.....It just gets more disgusting, unwatchable, and FF worthy every day...

From Day One when Pratt announced that Reese was going to be so

Diva, I applaud your post, and so do the masses of fans, who are tuning out everyday because of this mess... Quote: Mr. Pratt IMO was not honest with TB about why he wanted her to come to AMC and has done her and her character Reese a great disservice. He has also done a great disservice to TK and the character of Zach who TK has developed so diligently into one of the most complex, multi-layered and fascinating characters in Daytime. TK

Quote:From Day One when Pratt announced that Reese was going to be so

I just want to whole-heartedly second cararn's post. I couldn't possibly say it any better. Every point made is right on! The situation is very sad.

OK...reality is I can't stay away!...LOLAll this damage is salvageable. It will just take time to fix it. The only thing that can't be undone, in my eyes, is bringing back Josh and Babe.Unfortunately, we are going to have to sit through this until there is a contract expiration, or termination. The reality is that TV business is just like any other big business: Good ol' boys club. Why is Guza still around? Just a thought....

Quote:OK...reality is I can't stay away!...LOLAll this damage is salvageable. It will just take time to fix it. The only thing that can't be undone, in my eyes, is bringing back Josh and Babe.Unfortunately, we are going to have to sit through this until there is a contract expiration, or termination. The reality is that TV business is just like any other big business: Good ol' boys club. Why is Guza still around? Just a thought.... If all the news articles are true that soaps are on their last legs, AMC may be dead before anyone's contract expires. Does anyone have any thoughts on this--any hope? It seems to me that things are very bad. If these are the last few years of AMC, it's so sad that they were wasted under the reign of Frons, B & E and Pratt. Too bad we can't go out with good memories fresh in our minds. But then if things had been done better by TPTB, perhaps AMC could have been saved--maybe it still can. I don't know.

Quote:Quote:OK...reality is I can't stay away!...LOLAll this damage is salvageable. It will just take time to fix it. The only thing that can't be undone, in my eyes, is bringing back Josh and Babe.Unfortunately, we are going to have to sit through this until there is a contract expiration, or termination. The reality is that TV business is just like any other big business: Good ol' boys club. Why is Guza still around? Just a thought.... If all the news articles are true that soaps are on their last legs, AMC may be dead before anyone's contract expires. Does anyone have any thoughts on this--any hope? It seems to me that things are very bad. If these are the last few years of AMC, it's so sad that they were wasted under the reign of Frons, B & E and Pratt. Too bad we can't go out with good memories fresh in our minds. But then if things had been done better by TPTB, perhaps AMC could have been saved--maybe it still can. I don't know. maggiek, AMC lost another 80,000 viewers last week added to the 61,000 the week before. Can it be saved?. Yes if they truly want to save it. And yes I agree, it's sad that the last years if indeed they are the last years ,are wasted on Frons and Pratt.The Detroit Lions didn't win one game all season (of course they've had a lousy team since '67). They have a new coach.AMC hasn't had a winning sl since forever..not under B&E, not under Pratt and not many under McT. TThe Detroit Lions president blames himself for their losing season. It's about time the entire coaching team at AMC gets canned and Frons takes the blame.