And Victor should join him....geesh why can't any admit that Victor is no better and that Adam is his father's son..

everyone is ragin on adam vic is no different and nic is turning out the same way! what about them!

Actually, if the writers knew their history they could have had Victor stick Adam in the jail cell in the basement of the ranch. He had it built years ago to stick Julia's boy on the side in it. LOLIf they were REALLY creative, they could have Diane "stumble" across that old Jail cell, tell Jack about it, and have him lure both Victor and Adam into it. lol

That would be awesome! And Brad's ghost could haunt Victor. Granted Vic didn't put Brad in a cage his crazy first wife did but still it would be entertaining!

Victor is no better than Adum with all of the crap he has gotten away with for years. I think it makes a better story to keep adum around, with Sharon just to make them all nuts. she is a different person with him, stronger, less needy. It is also in her character to forgive so it is not that big of a stretch, and he has since saved Fath's life and tried hard to redeem himself. I still think back tothe beginning when Vic and NIc did not even give him a chance to be part of their lives. The were turds from the beginning and then he started retaliating and it got WAY out of control. I'll ride it out and see what happens, jmo

Quote:Victor is no better than Adum with all of the crap he has gotten away with for years. I think it makes a better story to keep adum around, with Sharon just to make them all nuts. she is a different person with him, stronger, less needy. It is also in her character to forgive so it is not that big of a stretch, and he has since saved Fath's life and tried hard to redeem himself. I still think back tothe beginning when Vic and NIc did not even give him a chance to be part of their lives. The were turds from the beginning and then he started retaliating and it got WAY out of control. I'll ride it out and see what happens, jmo You know I love you but I have to so disagree with you. How has he tried to redeem himself other than with Sharon? What about that kid who lost his Father? And how has he helped Ashley and everyone else? Don't even get me started on how he had sex with a man and than got his Aunt fired all to cover his tracks. Sharon is her own person but wasn't Adam the one who took her choices away from her when he let her believe her child was dead and that lasted how long? He is an awful person and maybe Nick and Victor were jerks, that is who they both are but what Adam did I can't get past. I guess everyone has their storylines that they love and for me this one just isn't it.

I see your point, but I have gotten used to Adum being around as a punching bag. He has done some horrific shiz in the past, but we have seen lot's of characters be turned around,, OVER TIME. The whole show right now is a bit in the tank, Nick boinking Diane, Cane blah, and I like Cane, just B O R I N G with Lilly, Neil is a tool, Sophia is underused, I haven't seen my Murph in quite some time, I want more of Nina and Ronan, Jana needs to be caught being a schmuck, and I want more Billy and Vicki and now little Lucy. they are going to drag out the Jana BS but rush the where did Lucy come from? Bleck

Quote:Actually, if the writers knew their history they could have had Victor stick Adam in the jail cell in the basement of the ranch. He had it built years ago to stick Julia's boy on the side in it. LOLIf they were REALLY creative, they could have Diane "stumble" across that old Jail cell, tell Jack about it, and have him lure both Victor and Adam into it. lol I LOVE IT!!! THAT IS SO PERFECT! Very believable too that Diane being the architect and building a wing onto the Newman Ranch would stumble across the secret jail. Victor doesn't bother me though...yes he has done some despicable things in his past but nothing like Adumb. So, I'm just thinking she could plot with Victor to stick Adumb in it and then her and Victor get close and become a couple instead of her and Nick because that is so grossing me out...I have to FF them anytime they are together. YUK YUK YUK!!! These writer's must be drunk when they are writing these scenes. And Diane wouldn't think twice about sleeping with Victor and hurting Nick, she is only looking out for #1 (herself) and could give a chiz-less about hurting anyone in the process.

If memory serves (and I could be wrong), I thought the cage was in another house and not the ranch. As a LONG-time viewer (30+ years!), I remember Victor living in another house w/Julia. I know he lived in the penthouse for awhile, and I'm not referring to that. It just seems to me that Vic didn't live at the ranch at the beginning. If anybody out there knows this little bit of trivia, I'd be interested to hear if I'm right on this or not.