LOL..I can't believe you said that. Jerry Springer is what I was thinking too.. It's frightening that in February..I think it was February...Ryan lost his true love Greenlee, only to move on in a few days. Now he realizes that Kendall really loves Zach after all, and it's "oh well, time to move on again" and he is grinning like an idiot with Erica. What kind of grown man has two new relationships less than 6 months after the death of his true love? That is just sick.

Quote:What kind of grown man has two new relationships less than 6 months after the death of his true love? That is just sick. The kind that has 4 loves of his life in a year.......Ryan changes loves of his life, faster than normal people change their underwear....that is why no one can take his so call declarations of love seriously....or any of his relationships..What's really sickening here is that Frons/Pratt seem to think it's romantic, sexy, and makes Ryan a gift to women.....Don't you just love the fact, that now that Ryan is in heat for Erica, Kendall is back to being dirt....The dialog and delivery make the character even more sickening..."He's done cleaning up Kendall's mess".... Excuse me, but Ryan got Kendall into those messes...Wait, I forget, Ryan is not responsiblie for anything, it's all Kendall's fault...Ryan isn't going to be dragged into Kendall's messed up world or play Kendall's game...Wasn't Ryan the one chasing after a broken, beaten, hurt Kendall.......Wasn't Ryan the one who swore too destroy Zach and use Kendall in the process if necessary....Now, that Ryan is sniffing after Erica, it's all KEndall's fault and he is the good guy..This is nothing new..Ryan drove Kendall to attempted suicide with his treatment of her and his game playing with GL... Ryan drove GL over the edge....Ryan drove Annie insane...Ryan used & abused KendallThat is what I saw play out....but Frons pet is untouchable..When the story fails, blame the woman....The fans hate Ryan, but Frons/Pratt seem to love him...Hell, even CM doesn't get it..... Reading his interview in SOW or SOD about this sick Ryerica thing made me laugh and made me angry...CM should go host a show....and TPTB need to get rid of the most disgusting, vile, hated male character in daytime..Ryan has been a joke for years....but they continue to push him in every single story, in every scene, ruining characters/couples too keep him up front, and everything fails..They don't get that Ryan is the problem.....Not the other characters..I'm not going to watch the destruction of Erica Kane at the alter of Frons/Pratt's pet...This story will be a bust and I'm sure that once Ryan finds another love of his life, it will be Erica's fault that everything happened..Hell, Erica is already taking back everything she said to Ryan the last few months.... Things the majority of the fans cheered her on for...... Erica is bashing her daughter and singing Ryan's praises, but that's how it goes....Mistake and this story is going to hurt SL/Erica...just like it did AM/Kendall, RB/GL, MCE/Annie...

I want Ryan to leave town again. He is just not any good. Not that Cam's not good, I think he is, but Ryan isn't. He needs to go away for just a little while, so the writers can re-write him. Two more things bother me about Ryan besides all the others listed ( which are all true). #1 tone down the spray tan, it's getting too orange. # 2 he needs to start wearing shrits. For me to dsay that is odd. Normally I even if they get on my nerves they can take that shirt off & I like it. ( yum) I think with Ryan they depend on Cam's looks too much. Yes he is a nice looking man, but he we walks around too much like the top rooster. Those actions are making him less attractive. Less really can be more.

Lets put him in a thong and give him a pole at Con-Fusion and call it good.

No thanks. It was bad enough that while I watched yesterday all I could think was that he needs a bra.

LMAO

What I hate is he took Annie's Child away from her even though he was only a sperm donor what other sperm donors get custody of thier spawned children? He ignores that child all the time to go play with everyone. Heck everyone sees him at home with the ho of the minute but where is the child? in her room or over at Tad's Where Tad is always home taking care of his kids. I like Tad for that.

Let's face it...Ryan is universally hated by the large majority of fans...The writers do nothing to fix the mess they made with this character and continue to make it worse..He's the most propped character in daytime......and useless...Nothing is ever his fault.... He's supposed to be the good guy, hero, savior of all women, and irresistible, but most fans find him repulsice...He's abusive at best with women.. .Uses them, then tosses them away and puts the blame on them..Look at this latest fiasco...Ryan blamed Zach for GL death and told Erica, Jack, Zach, anyone who would listen that he was going to destory Zach and if necessary, he would use Kendall to do it and did.We are now supposed to forget Ryan lying to Kendall's face about hacking into her computer and using her & Fusion to "Steal" everything Zach had...We are supposed to forget that Ryan started this entire mess with his vendetta....We are supposed to forget Erica's disgust at Ryan's actions becasue now Erica thinks Ryan was great and it was all Kendall's fault..Ryan is a tool..... He's useless and FF material, but Frons loves him, and what Frons loves is more important than what's best for AMC....JMHO

Why do we need to say anything about him? The less said the better.

Amen, Cara, Amen!! There's no point in us complaining over and over again when it's all falling on deaf ears. Just keep fast forwarding through those scenes and hope TPTB finally get a clue.

AMEN!!!

OMG! I can't believe I'm revisiting this discussion, but today's show really got my blood boiling. Come on, Ryan knows Emma overheard him talking about Annie being the murderer and what child wouldn't say whatever it took to protect her mother - especially since she misses her so much and doesn't want her to go away?? So, instead of looking at this from an adult perspective and realize his kid is lying to protect her mother, he's all too ready to let Kendall take the rap for being the shooter. They talk about a WOMAN scorned!! He knows she loves Zach and he can't have her, so let's send her to jail for a murder she didn't commit. Never mind that he's allowing her to be taken from her children. What an a$$ he is!! Now, let's see if Erica still continues to go along with his Kendall-bashing.

This is what Ryan does...Once he's done sexing it up with them, once he's moved onto someone else, screw them.... He tosses them under a bus..Besides, Ryan isn't the brightest bulb and we all know that..The thing is, when Ryan thinks he knows something, it always turns out to be the opposite..This isn't the first time Ryan has tossed Kendall under a bus...The thing is, I don't buy the concerned daddy act....Yes, Ryan has played nice with the kids, but Ryan is all about his libido....Emma is a damaged child... She's been abandoned by both parents...Ryan drove Annie insane, then sent her to the nuthouse, he immediately moved GL in and told Emma that she had a new step mom.....5 seconds after GL dies, Kendall is his new victim, and he doesn't think that his kid will get confused...He sent Emma packing on X-Mas eve so that he could sex it up with Aidan's wife....He spews crap about wanting revenge on Zach and uses Kendall to do it, right in front of his daughter....The one thing that Pratt hasn't screwed up, the one character he has down too a tee, is Ryan Lavery...What a waste and a joke of a character...I'm not surprised that Ryan believes the worst of KEndall. He always does and he's always wrong...and it always comes back to bite Kendall...Because we all know that Fratt will find a way too make this All Kendall's fault...I just wish they would kill this useless character off, but not before freeing Spike of those vapid Lavery genes and allowing Emma to have a "REAL" family...... without her sick, disgusting, psycho, neglectful parents....

I never thought Annie was a neglectful parent. Just a lil nutty, but think of poor emma's genes Annie and her brother both mental.

I agree. Even at her most psychotic, Annie's first thought was always for Emma. Before she went over the edge, she was a great mom. I had really hoped, though, that Emma wouldn't get a chance to tell Annie what she told Ryan about seeing Kendall shoot Stuart. Did you see how Annie almost freaked out when Emma said she saw who did the shooting? And she told Emma never to tell what she saw? What a sigh of relief when Emma said she told Ryan she saw Kendall. Now, Annie figures she's off the hook. No doubt left that she is the murderer after that scene. And while we're on the subject of Annie, the scenes with Adam and JR were very telling, I thought. The smirk on Adam's face when he told JR that he and Annie were in love! He is playing such a game with Annie, and he's convincing everyone that he's fallen into her clutches. Quite the contrary. He's sucking Annie into his own trap. He's not the doddering old fool everyone thinks he is. Did you see the hidden camera in the room? Adam looked right at it, so he obviously had it put there. He's building his own case against Annie, but he has to really draw her in so she'll let down her guard and think she's in the catbird seat. I'm loving this part.

If Adam really is playing her than it is a great twist. I really didn't like the thought of them as a couple, no sparks. When did Adam look at a camera? was it today? I'll have to rewatch with this in mind.

Yes, it was when Adam and JR were in the sitting room and JR was going on about how Annie was taking advantage of Adam. Adam said they loved each other, and just the look on his face was enough to convince me that it was all an act. Then, JR put his face in his hands and said, "Oh, I need a drink!" then Adam looked across the room and there was a close-up of a camera hidden in the curtain. Something's afoot in the Chandler mansion and I can't wait to see it hit the fan.

Sounds good to me. There is something that's bothering me. Annie said that Emma was in the nursery and she told her to stay while she went and found adam then they both went up to the attic. When this first happened she said they were in the attic heard the shot and stayed hidden. Now she says that they heard the shot then went up. Ok what about Emma? How could she be with Annie when she was downstairs watching Stewart be shot?

to add to the above.... do we all recall when Ryan listened to his vm messages and heard annie saying something weird is going on and then Shots rang out then she hung up.

She's very clever. She might have called him just before she pulled the trigger, to throw him off the track. I still think she did it, because when Emma told Annie she saw the shooter, before Emma said she told Ryan it was Kendall, Annie got panicky and told Emma to never, never tell what she saw. Let's hope Emma remembers what Annie said, so that she'll refuse to repeat it to the ADA or anyone else.And to correct my previous post, it wasn't a camera I saw in Adam's house, it was a tape recorder behind a cushion on the sofa. So, he's probably trying to get Annie to incriminate herself.

I think that it was Annie's ankle monitor that is behind the couch cushion. Adam hid it there after Annie left when Liza came to the door. There's one other thing that bothers me about the whole thing. On the night Stewart was shot and JR was roaring drunk, after he wrestled with Annie for the gun, he passed out..they made a big deal out of showing someone throw water in his face to wake him up. Why make a point of showing this then never mentioning it? By the way I think Annie did it also and I wish Adam did have a camera or voice recorder spying on her.

yeah who would care enough to throw water in his face?

If that was the monitor behind the cushion and Adam put it there after Annie left, how did Scott know where to find it when he tried to help Annie put it back on?

And, yes, that water-in-the-face scene doesn't seem to make much sense either. Maybe three months from now, we'll get an explanation.

I nearly gagged today when Ryan was arguing with Annie over Emma, and she accused him of all the same things she's done. Of course, his case was different. And he had the gall to say that "at least I admit my mistakes." When Zach was talking to Emma and gaining her confidence (the right way, I might add, instead of pounding into her that her mother told her to lie) Emma was almost at the point of confiding in him. That was when I knew Ryan would come back and blow the whole thing. Sure enough, he blew it again. I think subconsciously he wants to punish Kendall for choosing Zach over him. I don't think he wants to get the truth from Emma. But, he may not have any choice with Adam remembering what went on in the attic that night. It's getting juicy.