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I'm angry, very angry at the latest turn of events and the latest info coming out, and I so are legions of other soon to be ex AMC fans...
Pratt has pulled a bait & switch, lying to fans, lying to the actresses, and decimating characters, couples, and AMC in the process..
Not to mention, destroying not only his credibility, but putting the credibility of TB in question..
With the news that ER is on her way out, but TB has extended her stay, and that TPTB are trying to keep her long term, it has made the masses of fans angry, myself included..
Nothing against TB, but this was promoted as a ground breaking story about a same sex couple... Bianca's story....Instead, he never told that story...
He pulled a bait & switch....and AMC is going to pay dearly for this one..
As a one time fan of Bianca, I'm livid.. Bianca was ruined to introduce Pratt's creation.... ER was shoved to supporting role in her own story, so that Pratt's creation, Reese could be front & center..
The character of Zach has taken a lot of hits, damage has been done to this character and for what, so that PRatt could have his TB/Reese fix...
AMC spent money that they shouldn't have spent....
They are promoting a wedding for a same sex couple as ground breaking but what's so ground breaking if one isn't a lesbian, and they never intended to write her that way..
Too start with, this is the same story they tell for Bianca every single time... She gets a sexually confused partner and it's over...
Bianca was destroyed beyond repair.
Kinks is dead and can never be fixed..
Zach/Bianca, a wonderful relationship decimated..
Zendall will be dust for some sick pairing of Zach-Reese, which no one, including non-Zen fans want..
and the show is revolving around an unknown character whose only purpose on the show too date was to destory what worked and what veiwers want to see..
WTH did they do this stupid baby story if Reeks was a lie, which it was..
WTH bring ER back to decimate her character to the point of no return..
ER/Bianca fans are outraged at the treatment of ER by Pratt and his evil minions.
TK/Zach fans are enraged over watching him damaged to prop/pimp Pratt's creation
AM/TK/Zendall fans our livid at what is happening to them in the name of Reese.
Pratt destroyed Bianca, Zach, Kinks, Kane family, Zach/Bianca, and probably Zendall for what, Reese...
Reese is the most poorly written character in daytime....She has no rooting value..
Hell, even some TB fans are outraged that she was lied too.
TB has been telling fans from the begining that she signed on to play a lesbian, in love with Bianca...
She's been doing massive amounts of damage control, only to have it all be a lie...
I'm not saying she knew that Pratt lied to her, but extending her contract with ER leaving, doesn't bode well for her fans or her credibility,...
Keeping Reese Williams is going to cost AMC big time.
The backlash from this one will be the likes of which AMC has never seen.
The unaborted fetus, Dixie's death by pancakes, Babe is love debacle, the "REAL" GL mess, is nothing compared to this..
Pratt has literally spit in the faces of fans across the board with this....
Bianca fans, Zendall fans, Zach fans, KInks fans, and fans in general who don't necessarily like any of the above..
I've seen across the boards people calling fans out to boycott AMC.....
You've got petitions going everywhere calling for the immediately firing of Pratt and Frons..
People are not going to tune into the so-called ground breaking wedding because it's a lie..
I feel sorry for ER, TB, TK, AM, SL, ect....all involved in this story, all taking hits for Pratt's lie..
My friend is starting a letter writing campaign to have AMC pulled out of the GLADD awards and she is the driving force behind getting viewers to write, call, boycott AMC..
She's a lesbian, in a relationship with kids, who feels that AMC representation of a lesbian couple is a slap in her face.... She's also a Bianca fan outraged at the preferential treatment showed to the character of Reese over Bianca..
Pratt has really screwed up big here and AMC is about to get it back in spades...
You can not LIE to your fans and think they will take that forever..
You can not destroy great characters, couples, relationships in the name of a character that has no fan support and expect viewers to keep watching..
You can not treat actresses/actors who have paid their dues on the show like crap, lie to them, shove them aside, and ruin the characters that they so lovingly created for fans in the name of a newbie character that fans hate.
You can't do this an expect fans too just sit back and take it...
Tune out of AMC....
If Pratt wants his version of AMC fine, but it's not the version fans want, and we need to show him that he can spit in the faces of the fans, the actors/actresses and expect loyalty..
I've watched this show for 30+years...
I've stuck in there with bad writing, hideous stories, great characters/couples shoved aside to showcase unpopular characters/couples, but this is the straw that broke the camels back..
There is no way in hell that Pratt, Frons, etc do not know that this story is a failure...that the character of Reese is a bust...that the fans are pissed across the board....so why keep her..
I have nothing personal against TB, but I loathe her character, and I'm outraged at the destruction caused in the name of this useless character...
Time for fans to untie and hit them back...
Write, call, don't watch...
Pratt needs to go and he can take his creation Reese with him...
I agree with everything said. I have no grudge against TB. But she did make a big deal that the only reason she signed on was to do the groundbreaking lesbian story. More recently she was quoted as saying she wanted to move on to something that resonated with her--which I took to mean this isn't resonating with her. She has repeatedly insisted that Reese is a lesbian and loves Bianca. I believe TB has enough integrity to leave if Pratt makes her straight or bi and has her pursue Zach. In any case, the true villain in all this is Pratt. He lies to everyone about everything. It has been said that he adores TB. If this is how he treats people he loves, no wonder he has completely screwed over people he doesn't love such as ER and TK--and most of all, the fans.
You know, there is something else that makes this even more disgusting and that is the message Pratt is sending with this story and with the character of Reese..That a lesbian will turn straight or bi if you throw a hot guy into the mix.. That's total BS....GMAFB.... It's disgusting...Reese is disgusting....AMC has made a joike out of their ground breaking character Bianca with this and Reese is just plain vile..
I will give Pratt this and only this, he did not have enough time to develop this storyline to the extent that it should have been It's a very complex condition. We were given one or two scenes with Reeks parents and we were supposed feel a great deal of empathy for her because her parents didn't understand her choice? Excuse me but this is not a lifestyle choice.. being sedentary,smoking, drinking and overeating that leads to obesity, lung cancer and alcoholism are lifestyle choices, not being gay.If Pratt, that's a big if, truly wanted to explore this same sex storyline he would have had more interaction with Reeks parents.What about their hopes and dreams for their child? What about their need to keep their child safe from ridicule,derision and being an outcast from society. Maybe those are selfish things, but very real concerns of all parents regardless of the sexual orietation of their chldren but a bigger concern for those parents whose children are gay. What about the death threats gay people get especailly actors. What about Matthew Shepherd the college student who was tied to a fence and beaten and left to die. He was someone's son. Instead of writing a thought provoking sympathetic storyline that at least respected these human beings Pratt reduced this storyline to a tittilating, shallow and laughable SnL skit. All I see when looking at this storyline is Joey and Chandler sitting in their lounge chairs watching porn.Pratt reduced Bianca, a legacy character, Erica Kane's daughter to a betraying bi#$@tch that cannot be redeemed or return to PineValley anytime soon for Reese? I don't for one minute think poor Eden Riegel even thought about staying after what Pratt did to her character. And the loud and universal outrage of fans that Tamara Braun is staying on ,for however a short period of time, should tell Mr. Pratt he screwed up big time.No one Mr. Pratt wants to see your pet not after what you did to Bianca and Zach.
Quote: My friend is starting a letter writing campaign to have AMC pulled out of the GLADD awards and she is the driving force behind getting viewers to write, call, boycott AMC..
I think your friend has the right idea. AMC does not deserve a GLADD nomination. This story is homophobic and and belittling to gay and lesbians. The negative message of this story had competely overtaken anything that was good about it. I hope they convince them to take back the nomination. It's more of a step back than it is a step forward.
Pratt should be called out. As others have pointed out he has ruined great relationships and damaged characters for Reese and her relationship with Zach. And as it turns out neither Reese or her relationship Zach are popular.
Cararn, reading your post brought a tear to my eye... Actually, it made me cry because I remember the Matthew Sheppard story. What happened to him was horrible and should never happen again...but it will because their are stupid, bigoted, idiots in this world..It also made me sad because this was a golden opportunity for AMC...They had two terrific actresses on board to tell what should have been an amazing, socially relevant story that fans could love, learn from, and maybe even some finding understanding of others lifestyles, but no...Pratt had to lie to viewers and to ER/TB to get them onboard, only to spit on gay/lesbian couples and their RL issues..He wrote this story as if being gay is a choice...and it's not....People don't choose to be gay, straight, or bi....anymore then you can choose the color of your skin....It's sad.... I talked to my friend everyday and she is so angry....She's angry because Pratt/AMC have made a joke of her life...Her partner really went balastic and was the one who said that he made it seem as if all you need to stop being a lesbian is too throw a hot guy into the mix, let them pay attention to you, and bam....the questions start...BSThey should cut thier losses and send Reeks away together....not BB leaving and Reese staying..The across the board outrage at the news that Eden was leaving, but Tamara was staying a bit longer is bigger than any anger I've seen concerning AMC in 30+ years that I've been watching..Pratt made Reese the character no one could care for from the get go, and yet, it seems he doesn't care that not only has he destoryed his own credibility, put the shows credibility, and put TB credibility into question..This situation seems to be getting worse everyday with no one doing a damn thing to stop it..I just don't know if AMC will be able to survive Charles Pratt... I really don't.. and that too is sad..
WOW...that was numbinbg to read all that...LOL Just proved to myself that I've made the right choice to not invest anymore time on AMC>
Tune out of AMC.... Quote: I tuned out months ago when he screwed J/E fans and made Jack invisible. I check the scoops and if there is a J/E scoop I watch, if not I don't. I find Y&R far more entertaining and they actually have couples that stay together. Imagine that?Pratt is the worst thing to happen to AMC and I want no part of the show until he is gone.
The writing for Y&R is far more superior than AMC and always has been...They also know how to write romance, drama, suspence, and angst, and the best part, there is pay off in the end.... Big pay-off..something AMC has failed to give for years now... It's just angst, upon angst, upon angst that makes no sense, serves no purpose, with no payoff before they move onto the next pile of angst...Pratt is decimating characters right and left and even destroying his own creation..It's speaks volumes when fans across the board are outraged when they hear and actress is staying, while another is leaving.... BB is out, Reek is in for a few more months..Contract or no, no one wants anymore Reek... .He ruined his own creation and the right thing to do would be send her off with BB...Sad, Pratt has sucessfully decimated a longtime fan fav to the point that even her own fans hate the character now...I just want to hear something from someone at ABC/AMC admitting they screwed up. Apologizing to fans and the actors/actresses, and really fixing what they broke, and not by putting bandaids on this mess...Never happen, but it might go a long way with viewers if say, Anne Sweeney were to come out and admit mistakes were made, fans were lied too, etc...Coming from Frons it would only be just another lie...
Watch the epithets, people. Just because you're unhappy with storyline doesn't mean a writer or showrunner has actually "lied," to you.Don't make me get into a battle over semantics, just adhere to the board rules.Thanks.
Quote:Watch the epithets, people. Just because you're unhappy with storyline doesn't mean a writer or showrunner has actually "lied," to you.Don't make me get into a battle over semantics, just adhere to the board rules.Thanks. Mala,I am not only unhappy about this storyline but the entire show. There have been to date four, four deaths on the show since Pratt started airing his storylines in October;there are two more to come. Granted one was a real life death, but noenetheless just added to the gloominess and depressive atmosphere he has brought to Pine Valley.I am unhappy that core characters are destroyed for plot driven agendas and for the purpose of honoring agreements with hand picked actors to the detriment of legacy characters .I am unhappy that David has been turned into a mad scientist; Vincent Irizarry deserves better. I hate that Angie is a shrew; I hate Rebecca and Natalie's existence (as a matter of fact I still hate Natalie Buchanan's existence on OLTL; I saw Jessica's birth and no way did Vickie have twins. Yeah, I can hold a grudge forever)Most of all I hate how the legacy characters of Zach and Bianca were ruined for no good reason . Even the actors involved could not give a good reason for this bitter betrayal. And the aftermath has caused an actress to leave more than likely because of the damage done to the integrity of her character.What I am most angry about is that there doesn't seem to be any indication that any of this will be rectified. Why is it that head writers cannot admit mistakes? The only redeeming thing he did was to divorce Tad and Krystal. Thanks for freeing my Taddy from that bottom feeder.I am also angry that Annie's storyline is interminable. Just end it already! The show has lost more viewers since his take over. I hope that is not lost on those in charge and lets them know something is not working. I cannot compare Y/R writing to AMC's. It seems CBS soaps idea of what soaps should be are very different than ABC's. I think ABC soaps are much more cutting edge than CBS but they seem to get stuck in the cutting edge mode and don't know how to incorporate the traditional soap formula into it.BTW, Mala..Is Blackie Parrish still in prison? Where is Lou? Still waiting? I know Jackie left and married Bruce Willis but what happened to all of these wonderful characters?
What a joke...SON is reporting that ER is out 2/24, but TB is staying a bit longer...yeah right,..Also, so much for the ground breaking love story about a same sex coupleThey get married next week and then annuled the week after...Tell me again that this wasn't a bait and switch...No one can defend ABC, AMC, Pratt, or Frons with this... No one..This is just completely BS..I feel for ER and do not blame her for leaving.... Bianca is ruined, but to promote a ground breaking story about a same sex couple only to pull this....
I am not trying to make too much of that. Reese is staying a bit longer...what does that mean? If they had similar contracts, Eden WOULD be leaving sooner because she arrived first. I strongly doubt that TB is going to be around much longer.
However, I do agree..if TPTB asked Eden to stay longer to match TB's contract and so they could leave together, I doubt Eden would be eager to do anyone any favors here. It's the biggest mess ever.
And for what? Well we all know for what..TPTB may think we can't connect the dots but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what is going on.
Note to TPTB....I will never accept Ryan as a serious character on AMC... ever. The character has been ruined beyond belief..and ruining all the others along side him won't help.
As long as Reeks goes I don't care if it's the same day or the next week. Just go!I see that she blames Ryan for her trouble...of course she the female version of Ryan.
^^Ain't that the truth..
I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell that anyone can call this vile, repulsive, disgusting, character destructive mess of a story ground breaking....Reeks get married one day and annuled the next week...WTH is so ground breaking about that???WTH is so ground breaking about BB being involved with a sexually confused psycho who puts the moves on a man???Nothing..... I still stand by what I said before... There was never going to be a ground breaking story about a same sex couple.... Never...because from the minute the vapor Reese showed up, it was the Reese story on the Reese show...Someone needs to be called on the carpet for this mess.I notice legions of ER/BB fans are outraged at what was done to ER/BB.... BB became a supporting character in what should have been her story...and she was ruined beyond repair, along with Kinks and for what..Too Showcase Reek....GMABZendall fans are livid at what has been done to the character of Zach and to Zendall and for what..Too make room for Reek....With each passing day, the story gets worse... They aren't even trying to fix the mess they made, they are doing as much damage as possible..I just don't get it... All I know is that there is no way this show can survive with this kind of BS writing.... No way...Hell, when you have fans wishing for the return of Megan McTavish, hated the once beloved character of Bianca, hated a baby and wishing it gone, and tuning out every single time Reek is on the screen.... and no one is trying to fix it.... any one with a brain would no when too stop... Apparently, no one at ABC/AMC seems to have one.... because this craptastic story contines...and the promos are not promoting anything ground breaking..just a reason not to watch..Pratt is going down as the biggest mistake that Frons has ever made and this so-called not so ground breaking story about a same sex couple, along with the character of Reek is worse than the unaborted fetus hands down..The worst character to ever hit PV....Reese Williams... Ms. Not so Cool, Not So Amazing, and so not a lesbian...
See everyone need to take their eyes off of Reese as being the spoiler. She'll be leaving soon. There has been no announcement that TB has extended her contract. She came on AMC two weeks after ER, so IMO she'll be leaving shortly after. If there is anyone to watch out for would be Ryan. This throwing rocks and chasing Zach up a tree was done on purpose. The purpose is to give Ryan some rooting value, which he is never going to get. This is the back door way Pratt is planning on bringing Ryan in the middle of Zendall so that CM/Ryan can have the triangle he's probably always wanted with them. See everyone of Ryan's pairings have failed since Kendall and no one is going to watch Ryan unless he's connected to Zendall in storyline. This Zach/Ryan rivalry with Kendall in the middle is suppose to be the biggest just like Pratt's "Groundbreaking" Lesbian storyline, yeah right. No matter what out of character thing Pratt is doing to Zach, the fans will cheer Zach on harder and throw rocks at Ryan because they truly do not like the character. We now have Kendall road killing her BFF by accident, which by the way Pratt the majority of the fans are happy due to Greenlee never paying for kidnapping and maiming Spike. Greenlee is another character the fans despises due to Fron's love of Rylee.This show is a hot mess. The fans are going to tune are OUT in droves if Pratt have Kendall siding with Ryan over Zach for any reason. It's time to stop with the crazy out of character writing and have Zach/Kendall banned together against any type of outside forces that will threaten their family and each other including Reese, Ryan and BIanca or whoever gets in their way.Pratt I do not need to tune into AMC to see Kendall feeling guilt over road killing over Greenlee because I don't care about the character. I care about Kendall, Zach and their boys and "Team Slater".
Quote:See everyone need to take their eyes off of Reese as being the spoiler. She'll be leaving soon. There has been no announcement that TB has extended her contract. She came on AMC two weeks after ER, so IMO she'll be leaving shortly after. If there is anyone to watch out for would be Ryan. This throwing rocks and chasing Zach up a tree was done on purpose. The purpose is to give Ryan some rooting value, which he is never going to get. This is the back door way Pratt is planning on bringing Ryan in the middle of Zendall so that CM/Ryan can have the triangle he's probably always wanted with them. See everyone of Ryan's pairings have failed since Kendall and no one is going to watch Ryan unless he's connected to Zendall in storyline. This Zach/Ryan rivalry with Kendall in the middle is suppose to be the biggest just like Pratt's "Groundbreaking" Lesbian storyline, yeah right. No matter what out of character thing Pratt is doing to Zach, the fans will cheer Zach on harder and throw rocks at Ryan because they truly do not like the character. We now have Kendall road killing her BFF by accident, which by the way Pratt the majority of the fans are happy due to Greenlee never paying for kidnapping and maiming Spike. Greenlee is another character the fans despises due to Fron's love of Rylee.This show is a hot mess. The fans are going to tune are OUT in droves if Pratt have Kendall siding with Ryan over Zach for any reason. It's time to stop with the crazy out of character writing and have Zach/Kendall banned together against any type of outside forces that will threaten their family and each other including Reese, Ryan and BIanca or whoever gets in their way.Pratt I do not need to tune into AMC to see Kendall feeling guilt over road killing over Greenlee because I don't care about the character. I care about Kendall, Zach and their boys and "Team Slater". Pat, I want to bronze your post....ITA.... I've thought for a long time that they were doing whatever they could to make Zach look bad, in hopes of getting fans to lean more towards Ryass, but it isn't going to work... Not for me anyway..They could have Zach kill puppies in front of the kiddies and I would still hate Ryass and wouldn't want him anywhere near Kendall or Spike & Ian..Ryass has been a waste since 04, but no one gets it..I think it's one of those things were they believe that since the actor is popular, then so is his character... Guess What::::: Wrong..Hell, I've already heard people and seen post from viewers who are already attacking Ryass for accusing Zach of having an affair..Ryass blaming Zach is nothing unusual.... Look the facts are this..Ryass is hated by the masses....Ryass abused every single woman he's been with.. Kendall, GL, and Annie..He drove Kendall to attempting suicide...He drove GL over the edge..He was physically, emotionally, and psychologically abusive to all these women..He drove Annie insane...nothing TPTB do can change that..Fans are not going to be rooting for Ryass or a Ryass/Kendall pairing...because even if there was no Zach, I wouldn't want Kendall with that monster...Hell, as much as I loather KWAK, she's too good for that idiot..I say bring it...Pratt is in for another big surprise....if he does try to paint Ryass as the good, noble, hero and attempt triangle #54454454 with Zach/Kendall/Ryass...Been there, done that, and hated Ryass even more...Nothing can be done to make Ryass a likable character so instead of trying that, they paint him as the evil abusive low life he is..Good luck to PRatt, but the outcome for that will be the same as the outcome over the not so ground breaking story...Ryan is a character whose time has come and gone... None of his stories work because the mass majority of fans loathe tha character....JMHO
Ryan/Cam is NOT a lead actor and will never be. Just the fact that we're doing the same story we've done twice already tells me AMC is done. The show has lost all credibility and the writing is horrible and to give this guy yet another story tells me they still don't get it. How many stories has this guy ruined? Every one he's in and yet they keep trying.Watching the marathon on Kendall is past weekend I had to laugh at how bad he was back then and he's still bad. Why anyone would want him with Kendall is beyond me and if they start Kendall being all about Ryan again I think a lot of viewers will just tune out. I've had enough of this guy to last a lifetime and I do not want to see another Z/K/R triangle it's been played to death.
Exactly..... They've run out of stories for Ryan so they send him back into Zendall story...which is just another mistake..Let's face it, Ryan has destroyed every woman he's been with..Kendall tried to kill herself.GL went nuts, then left, went nuts again, agreed to marry him, then he sends her to her death..Annie went nuts...They've tried to give Ryan a story of his own that didn't involve being propped and look what happened.... Ryannie vs Ritchie had legions of fans cheering for Ritchie to take out Ryan...Right there should have told them that their golden boy wasn't so golden with fans..By the looks of things to come, Ryass will be back to doing the same ish he's done from day one..Nothing is his fault..Blaming Zach and trying to destory him, by way of Kendall.He will be insinuating himself back into Kendall's life. GL is dead, he's miserable, Annie is a nutcase so his biggest victim, will be his victim again...Ryass wlll be telling Kendall what he thinks she should do, etc and it will piss fans off more...I would love too see Kendall just once, be allowed to kick his useless [censored] to the curb..Here's an idea...."Who Killed Ryan" story... fans would love it.. .In fact, I think the ratings would skyrocket just to get that useless character off the show, but Ryan has too really die....There is nothing they can do that will ever make Ryass popular again.... Some like him, but the majority just want this character gone....
I do agree Ryan is not a lead/hero actor. Granted Cam is seems an affable man, he certainly is very attractive but has no ability to carry a storyline. I've been watching soaps, and AMC, for thirty one years...I actually was eight years old. I didn't much understand what was going on but I still watched with my grandmother probably because I wanted to spend that time with her. But my reasons for watching have become more sophistcated and looking at handsome men wasn't one of the reasons. Ryan's Hope was the catalyst for wanting more sophisticated soap telling. Even my grandfather loved that show of course he was as Irish as they come. But the writing and the acting certainly spoiled me. Thus my love of Thorsten Kaye, David Canary, Vincent Irrizary, Michael E. Knight , Darnell Williams, Debbie Morgan, Alicia Minshew gorgeous men and women, but ther acting abilities far transcend their looks and are deserving of better than recycled, faded and charcater destroying storylines.The rest of the viewing audience probably feels the same, otherwise why complain about plot driven storylines and OOC behaviors and disrespect for show history and trying to make superficial actors into the lead.The fans have been telling Frons and the HW of AMC for years about Ryan but it just falls on deaf ears.The ship has sailed that was Ryan the Magnificient. Disembark writers!We want Zendall, Adam, David, Angie, Jessie, my Taddy,Jack and Erica in an adult storyline and.......I'll admit it, I am showing some interest in Aiden and Annie. Let's get rid the so called ground breaking storylines, Reese/Bianca (PLEASE!), CBGs whatever the hell they are and write real character driven storylines. Are these writers capable of it?

Well, I've written, called, emailed all the usual suspects to no avail. In one of the most illogical moves ever, AMC is parting ways with Bianca, a legacy charcater, that was decimated by Pratt and his minions for Reese a character that is detested by the masses, has no ties to Pine Valley and was so poorly written it was painful to watch. It caused me to fast forward through all of Thorsten Kaye's scenes.What a waste of his talent to be paired with this empty gesture of a character. Why is Zach hanging around this empty headed waste of screen time ? Does Pratt think pairing her with Thorsten Kaye will make her popular? It will tear down even further whatever is left of his character's integrity. Does he think he can resurrect her character if she stays. Pratt should be spending time rectifying the mess he made of Bianca and her relationship with her sister, allowing Zach and Kendall to fix their marriage without the presence of this offensive lying piece of baggage. If she's confused about her sexuality , a roll in the hay isn't going to cure her...therapy, Pratt, therapy!I cannot picture Zach a highly complex, sophisticated character being stuck with this wet dish rag. She's described as a strong woman? Really? Her constant pathetic whining and crying tell me something else.As for Tamara Braun's integrity being in question with her fans....well if she has any and has any grace at all she'd leave..yesterday.I WANT HER OFF MY SCREEN!