totally agree with everything you've said, gcyn.

I think this whole story is the writers forcing LL2 down our throats in a roundabout way. They didn't expect the strong positive reaction from the audience to Liz & Nik when they first toyed with them as a possible romance & they had to find a way to fit in their 80th rendition of LL2 reunions. The truth is that Liz & Lucky no longer work as a couple, no matter who plays Lucky & the answer is not to turn Lucky into Luke or Liz into a raving lunatic [censored]. The answer is to accept what the audience already knows. Liz & Lucky, like a lot of first loves, have outgrown each other. They're forcing themselves to stay in their less complicated past rather than admit they simply don't work anymore.Get Lucky a girlfriend of his own. I'm sure there's at least one lady on PCPD who'd be happy to go out with Lucky. Or, now that he's cutting his dad a little slack, maybe he could spend some sober time at the casino getting to know the waitresses. Let Liz & Nik take the heat from everyone about how they crushed Lucky's illusions & caused the one thing Liz hoped to avoid-Lucky's addiction to flare up again. IMO that would be far more interesting to watch than yet another forced LL2 reunion.

Okay, I am loving JJ more and more each day. Totally loved him and Luke together today. And then.....finally the showdown with Nik and Liz. Ha, how enjoyable was that?

Loved it! Both of them were too stupid to figure out why he was drinking. They actually thought Nik having a crush on Liz was too much for him. Also, dingbat Liz didn't put that together with walking into Laura's beloved house totally trashed & Lucky acting so calm about it. Anybody who knows Lucky would see through that. He'd be furious if strangers or Luke for that matter came into that house & wrecked it like that. I can't wait to see the rest of that confrontation with Liz pleading with Lucky & whining about how much she loves him. Then, when Lucky leaves, she's going to spit venom at Nik. If he has any pride or self respect left & she does that, he should walk out on her too.

So , does anyone else seem bothered by the fact that Lucky spilled everyhting to Jaosn about Claudias case? I mean if Lucky doesn't quit the force, then he most definately should be fired. What point is it to tell Jason anyway? Who is he really helping? Lucky is such a dope.

No, because for once, Lucky's showing family loyalty. Not to Sonny, but to Carly & her kids, who are his family. He didn't give Jason anything Spinelli couldn't get access to anyway.I'm thrilled that Lucky tore the two of them apart. They had it coming. But, they're making it look to newer viewers as though Lucky's been a long suffering husband dealing with a perrenial cheater. The truth is Lucky is the one who's been the cheater, in the course of their history. From the very beginning, it's been him, not her. First, he was supposed to take Liz to the dance & forgot about her as he was chatting up her sister, who was at the dance with...Nikolas! Then, years later, when he & Liz were engaged, he cheated on her with her sister AGAIN. Then, of course, there was Maxie & finally Sam. That's my only issue with this. Don't make him out to be some long suffering saint while she cheated on him. She only got involved with Jason after she found him in bed with Maxie. What she did this go around is the only thing he should be punishing her for, not what she did with Jason.As far as Carly's gloating, I agree. But, if every woman that cheated on her husband lost custody of her kids because of it, there'd be a lot more single dads with custody. And, as for Jason deciding to go for custody because of it...Hello! He's not only a professional killer, but he's got a nutjob following his every move. The whole reason he gave the kid up in the first place was not because Lucky would raise him, but because Jason's life is too dangerous for kids. If the writers make him look for custody, they turn Jason into another one of the many hypocrites on this show.Which leads me to my last b**ch of this situation. Speaking of hypocrites, now Lulu's going to launch into a tirade at Nikolas for doing exactly the same thing she herself did a few years ago to another iconic couple that were the Liz & Lucky of Lulu's generation (Georgie & Dillon)? I hope Nik points out her hypocrisy too. Unless, of course, the writers forgot that too, along with all of Lucky's girls on the side.

Yes, no one is an innocent in this situation with the exception of liz' 2 children but she slept with Lucky's brother for heaven's sake!!! I think Lucky is more than entitled to throw a little anger or rage in Liz and nik's direction. It's bad enough that she has been doing this but she thought somehow she could have them both. I say Liz and Nik deserve each other for what they did to Lucky. Yes, he's made more than his share of mistakes but Liz should have never said yes to Lucky's proposal.I am loving the work that JJ is doing on this storyline. His scenes with AG have been amazing and I can't wait to see more. As for Lulu, you can understand her anger as well. Her brothers have really been her only support system because Luke isn't the world's greatest Dad. Now Nik has helped tear the family apart so of course she's going to blame him and be angry. Yes, these characters have all done their fair share of horrible things but this is so much more impactful because Liz and Nik have torn the Spencers apart. The fallout from this will be felt for a very long time.

After watching today, I started thinking that maybe they would write Becky Herbst's pregnancy in, make it Lucky's and he won't believe its even possible. Thoughts?

Very interesting thought. Of course, it will have to be a "who's the daddy" storyline...boring but possibly interesting.Loved the way Lucky tore into Liz's azz. That's exactly how it should have been done. From his saying that he should have expected it from "a faithless [censored] like yourself but I never would have thought my own brother would do this" to when he called her a biotch when she tried to play the "my boys" card. Well done Lucky Spencer, well done.Now I can't wait for Lulu to get knee deep in her azz when she finishes with Nikolas

Another 'who's the daddy' story....juuuusstt what we needed!....LOLThat would be 3 babies with three different daddies....Besides Lucky and Lulu, (which is debatable) are there ANY full-blooded siblings on GH>?? Any at all???Carly 3 for 3Alexis 3 for 3Monica, 3 for 3Liz..going for brokeBooby...2 for 2Tracy 2 for 2Audrey 2 for 2Lucy Coe 2 for 2 (I think)See a trend???Chime in!

ROTFLMAO! I think you named all of them. When I saw Audrey's name, I kind of figured you had conquered them all Loved the Liz going for broke comment

Quote:Very interesting thought. Of course, it will have to be a "who's the daddy" storyline...boring but possibly interesting.Loved the way Lucky tore into Liz's azz. That's exactly how it should have been done. From his saying that he should have expected it from "a faithless [censored] like yourself but I never would have thought my own brother would do this" to when he called her a biotch when she tried to play the "my boys" card. Well done Lucky Spencer, well done.Now I can't wait for Lulu to get knee deep in her azz when she finishes with Nikolas Ha, Lulu got knee deep just like I knew she would. And like big bro Lucky, she did it right, if not better. Right in the middle of GH ha, how entertaining was that! Now I can only hope that Liz finds that black hole and crawl all the way in....and close the door behind her.

Thanks! But monica is actually NOT Jason's Bio mom...I keep forgetting that. But it sounds good LOLAlso, If Lucky turns out to be a Cassadine like I firmly believe in my heart of hearts, then....laura wil be 3 for 3!How Fitting AND consistant!

I know, Elizabeth is the town pariah right now; however, she is doing nothing different than a man would do. Men in soapland do it all the time. Am I justifying her actions? No, I'm just saying give the character a break. Rebecca is certainly playing a tortured Elizabeth very well. I know, I'm in a very, if not, the only minority, on actually enjoying this storyline.

Lucky may be a cop but he pretty much is luke..sure there is ethan who is alot like Luke to but before there was Ethan..there was LuckyI would be so disgusted and dissapointed if Lucky was a cassadine. As much as like the acting that makes nicholas....I do not like the cassadine family one bit. Not to mention...it'dbe a blow to luke. There is a special bond between luke and lucky and that'd pretty much break that beyond repairand i understand soaps rewrite history but this would do so beyond recognition..it'd be beyond ridiculous not to mention it'd put off alot of fans

I am with youas you can tell from my other posts. I am really getting tired of the Liz bashing. And yes, RH is playing it well, unfortaunaletly the writers aren't doing her character any good. I sincerely hope for RH's sake they don't write inthe pregnancy and just kind let it go unaknowledged or "hidden" by coats, books, etc. I don't think he character needs another kid.

I completely agree...lol I hope they dont write it in either. That and as much as I do dislike liz at the moment..it is a lil ridic.

I don't like how this was written for me a triangle is when the deck isn't stacked. Yes Elizabeth was written to lie to Lucky again. He's lied to her and also has infidelities however the scribing of the scene reminds me of three teenagers. I'm glad he unloaded as I am a JJ Lucky fan. However, the scene and storyline is written "for" Lucky. It wasn't written to give Elizabeth a "positive focus" I am more sad than some becaue I am a Muskateer fan and the writing has managed to destroy that history (as much of GH history) and with sleaze.

I had several problems re: the lack of dialog. I knew they would write her to stand there with no defense because she was wriiten with none the deck was stacked against her. What surprised me is Nik where is the Cassadine? He could have said something more to Nik and Nik to him. I guess I am not a champion of women being called Bitc...and Whor....because this is done so much at GH...I just got through with the Sonny/Claudia confrontation and Anthony Z calling her a wh.. when she first came on in nearly every sentence of dialog. The sad part is Elizabeth will be written to still want this man who has called her these names not once but twice and in her on house....The hallmark of Elizabeth/Lucky way prior to their infidelities is how she is written with him and I see no hope that will never change. I can't recall recently a character being put out on front street like she has in this but then she's not a Frons/Guza pet so her many of her fans expected it and Guza didn't surprise us. Hoepful Jonathan has his emmy reel and this will soon be over after that she'll grovel for all eternity....

I agree. But I also see so much hypocrisy. See, when Lucky was dating Rebecca (however short it was) when Nik and Liz kissed not once, but twice, Lucky seemed ok with it. Then after Rebecca fell for Nik he basically shoved himself down Liz's throat, smothered her, guilted and lived in this fantasy world where they were both still 15. Hello!?!? I am completely disgusted with the way everyone calls Liz a [censored] and tramp and all those other disgusting names. She is no worse than everyone else in PC. I was also ticked at Carly when she told Jason Liz was no longer a fit mother. Just because you sleep with someone or have an affair by no means makes you unfit (pot calling the kettle black?). And again, everyone blames Liz for this portrayal that she is innocent and is better than everyone else or holier than thou. I have NEVER seen Liz act that way nor say words to that affect. Also, how many times has Liz said that she is not perfect? She even said months ago that she was tired of everyone assuming she was perfect. I really hate the way the writers have penned this. They should have just let Liz and Nik happen. Lucky is a dope for not seeing what was right in front of him because he was livining in a fantasy world. Poor Liz felt guilted into trying to make that fantasy come true. Let her be the woman she is, not the 15 year girl she was. Lucky needs to grow up and grow some. Yeah I understand he was angry and hurt, heck who wouldn't be? However, he was in no condition to handle this situation in a MATURE fashion. As for Nik, the writers needed him to standup. Seriously, if a man truly loves a woman, he would not stand there and allow someone else to call them horrific names, regardless of the situation. He should have clocked Lucky.Having said all that, the acting was awesome. I just am not liking the writing.

I agree with everything you said! Thank you. I thought Lulu's behavior in the hospital was hideous. Being angry at Liz for cheating on her brother with her other brother? Sure. But, her outburst was in a hospital. Sick people, heart attack victims do not need to hear some hypocritical little snot screeching at the top of her lungs, talking like a pig. Oh & the fact that Liz might have been too mortified to do her job right might actually kill a patient because Lulu finally just finished her high school reading assignment of "The Scarlett Letter" & decided Liz needed a big red A on her forehead. What century are we living in here? Grow up, kid. It's not Liz's fault that Lulu put her & Lucky on some pedal as an idyllic love story.The writing in this story has been horribly unbalanced. I suppose this is the writers trying to make up for years of Lucky being nauseatingly wishy washy. But, you don't do that at the expense of another character. Everyone, in the rush to stone Liz has forgotten that Lucky more or less dragged her around by her hair since he decided he wanted her back after he failed to turn Sam into his dream of St. Elizabeth. Then, after Jake was nearly killed, HE decided that they should get married. Even before he proposed, he knew something was off with her, yet he kept pushing. & yes, he did guilt her into agreeing to marry him by doing exactly what he accused her of doing--using the boys. There is a responsibility in this that goes all around. Every one of them, especially Lucky, is responsible for his illusions being crushed.