Quote:Hello and welcome to Soap Opera Digest and Weekly's official forums. We're developing quite a bustling little community here and hope to foster a lot of healthy and entertaining discussion about your favorite soaps and soap stars (and soap magazines!).However, a community can't exist without some basic rules and guidelines, and we hope to see posters here adhering to some of the following requests.1. Please do not engage in personal attacks on actors, actresses, The Powers That Be, or members of the soap press. This includes criticism of their physical appearance, speculation about their talent or lack thereof, and thoughts on their level of intelligence. 2. Please do not use profane language. Our filters catch a lot of the usual swear words, but we all know there's creative ways around a filter. Out of respect for your fellow poster, try to keep it clean.3. Please do not copy and paste content from the magazines into your posts or post magazine scans. Ditto for content from other Web sites. To do so is a violation of copyright. If you want to discuss spoilers or magazine articles, feel free to summarize as that falls under Fair Use.4. Please don't spam. This should go without saying. If you need definition of what constitutes spam, feel free to reply to this post and we'll clarify. 5. Please keep your signature files to a reasonable size, as large files make the site harder to load for people with slower Internet connections. And, of course, please keep the images tasteful.Not following these rules can result in post deletion and account bans. Please don't make us resort to that. I have read these rules and they seem fair enough. I really hope this is not happening on this sight. I enjoy blogging with people. And please bare in mind that what is being said is only opinions and I agree about rule number one. I hope I haven't fallen into the trap you are speaking about I enjoy this web sight.

I agree with the rules but sometimes dissing the character may seem like someone is dissing the actor/actress. Also some people are just not right for the character they are playing and people just can't warm to them which is what happened with Marty for OLTL. Should the website not address it or comment on it. What about the soaps themselves they were pushing "The real Greenlee returns" which was saying to the fans that the girl that replaced her just wasn't right. Do the fans not have a right to address that here on the forum? Just wondering.

We'll be careful to make the distinction between character dissing and actor/actress dissing, don't worry. Talking about how a recast frustrates you is fine, as is criticizing something like the the "real Greenlee" campaign. We just want to make sure that comments don't get personal towards the people involved. We want to maintain some basic courtesy.

Quote:We'll be careful to make the distinction between character dissing and actor/actress dissing, don't worry. Talking about how a recast frustrates you is fine, as is criticizing something like the the "real Greenlee" campaign. We just want to make sure that comments don't get personal towards the people involved. We want to maintain some basic courtesy. Agreed.

Quote:I agree with the rules but sometimes dissing the character may seem like someone is dissing the actor/actress. Also some people are just not right for the character they are playing and people just can't warm to them which is what happened with Marty for OLTL. Should the website not address it or comment on it. What about the soaps themselves they were pushing "The real Greenlee returns" which was saying to the fans that the girl that replaced her just wasn't right. Do the fans not have a right to address that here on the forum? Just wondering. Personally I thought the previous Marty was just fine. TPTB were smart enough to wait a good length of time before introducing Marty back into the fold. I do however like the original Marty but to introduce her now in such a short period of time I feel confuses the watcher and frustrates them, I think they should have waited longer before bringing Marty back.

Quote:We'll be careful to make the distinction between character dissing and actor/actress dissing, don't worry. Talking about how a recast frustrates you is fine, as is criticizing something like the the "real Greenlee" campaign. We just want to make sure that comments don't get personal towards the people involved. We want to maintain some basic courtesy. So... does not dissing the actor/actress also include the "star style squad" of SOD? A recent column refered to an actresses look as "a joke ..right?" and though one of the comments about the same look was "_______ (insert characters name_) may know fashion, but it looks here like she knows Santa" the person they were showing wasn't the character, but the actress. I totally like to see the fashion that the actresses and actors wear. It gives a little glimpse of their real personality. But what's wrong with just saying that maybe they "missed the mark" instead of"call girl auditions for a new, updated Hercules movie". That sure sounds like a personal attack to me.

Quote:Quote:We'll be careful to make the distinction between character dissing and actor/actress dissing, don't worry. Talking about how a recast frustrates you is fine, as is criticizing something like the the "real Greenlee" campaign. We just want to make sure that comments don't get personal towards the people involved. We want to maintain some basic courtesy. So... does not dissing the actor/actress also include the "star style squad" of SOD? A recent column refered to an actresses look as "a joke ..right?" and though one of the comments about the same look was "_______ (insert characters name_) may know fashion, but it looks here like she knows Santa" the person they were showing wasn't the character, but the actress. I totally like to see the fashion that the actresses and actors wear. It gives a little glimpse of their real personality. But what's wrong with just saying that maybe they "missed the mark" instead of"call girl auditions for a new, updated Hercules movie". That sure sounds like a personal attack to me. Good for you Glossy, I tend to agree with you, however I also can see there point. Besides they are paid to do it and have legal backing if anything goes wrong, if you know what I mean.I also think they mean by dissing an actress they mean doing it in poor taste. You really can dis someone and do it with class and diplomacy. In some of the blogs I do think we do tend to carried away and I mean myself as well. We need to be more diplomatic about what, how and who we say things about.Would you not agree somewhat.

Grandma, I completely agree with you. That is why I was questioning some of the comments I have seen in SOD. When we make comments in the forums, I think for the most part we are commenting on the characters and not the particular actor or actress personally. I think most of us do a pretty good job of separating the two and keeping our comments in check.

Quote:Grandma, I completely agree with you. That is why I was questioning some of the comments I have seen in SOD. When we make comments in the forums, I think for the most part we are commenting on the characters and not the particular actor or actress personally. I think most of us do a pretty good job of separating the two and keeping our comments in check. Agreed but there is one topic in the miscellanous section about surgeries and TPTB pulled and I agree with that. I think they just want to be sure we do not get out of control (not us in particular) but the forums and the comments being made.

Most of it is geared towards personal attacks. Which is why I chose this particular forum. We ALL have to remember that these are working people, that are doing THEIR jobs. They have people telling them what to do as well.Actors come and go...But you also have to put yourself in the actor place....If you were jst starting out, some criticism may be hurtful to your craft. I wouldn't want to read that I was fat etc......There is a fine line, just remember to be Constructive. not so critical. And if they can't act, I'm sure that eventually TPTB will figure it out on their own

Quote:Most of it is geared towards personal attacks. Which is why I chose this particular forum. We ALL have to remember that these are working people, that are doing THEIR jobs. They have people telling them what to do as well.Actors come and go...But you also have to put yourself in the actor place....If you were jst starting out, some criticism may be hurtful to your craft. I wouldn't want to read that I was fat etc......There is a fine line, just remember to be Constructive. not so critical. And if they can't act, I'm sure that eventually TPTB will figure it out on their own Well put, and I hope that was what I was trying to say in a round about way. And like you I pick certain forums as well as you know from our many conversations. And you are right about TPTBthey will figure it out usually thru the ratings but sometimes from out constructive opinions.

Quote:Most of it is geared towards personal attacks. Which is why I chose this particular forum. We ALL have to remember that these are working people, that are doing THEIR jobs. They have people telling them what to do as well.Actors come and go...But you also have to put yourself in the actor place....If you were jst starting out, some criticism may be hurtful to your craft. I wouldn't want to read that I was fat etc......There is a fine line, just remember to be Constructive. not so critical. And if they can't act, I'm sure that eventually TPTB will figure it out on their own That is a good way to think of it, Labner: We are concerned with personal attacks, not constructive criticism of characters and series. When posting something, you (meaning any poster) should ask if your feelings would be hurt to read it if it was directed at you.

Joe, would your feelings be hurt if it was noted in a publication that you were dressed "like a call girl audition for an updated Hercules movie"? That quote was refering to the way an actress was dressed in her real life, not her characters dress. I think if I were an actress and saw that in print my feelings would be hurt. Maybe I am a little thin skinned, but that quote really caught my eye as maybe a little over the top. Just saying....

Since that particular SOD column deliberately asks the opinion of people in the business of making people look good, it's considered "critique" rather than bashing. And for the most part, they're saying it's what the clothes look like, not the person themselves. There's a distinct difference between saying, "Man, Mala's wearing an ugly dress today," and "Mala is a fat cow who wouldn't look good in anything." Or saying "Joe is a stupid hack who can't write," and "Joe's Sweeps storyline didn't work for me and here's why..."That's all we're asking for on the message boards. That basic distinction. Or, as I've said in the past somewhere else on these forums, "hate the game, don't hate the playa."

Makes me think of the old quote from Bambi of all things......If you don't have anything NICE to say it's better to say nothing at all.... or my fav quote tis better to be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove ALL doubt

Quote:Makes me think of the old quote from Bambi of all things......If you don't have anything NICE to say it's better to say nothing at all.... or my fav quote tis better to be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove ALL doubt Nice one Labner

So I'm curious is it still considered a spoiler if the info comes from one of your mags? I tend to get the SOD/SOW up to a week ahead of time, so then what? I can't help it if I get both mags or have access to it before articles are sent out to the general public. Is that still considered a spoiler? I just want to know so that I don't do anything wrong. Usually I try to keep things to the Y&R viewers only....but I thought I'd ask to be sure. Don't want to get in trouble with TPTB i realize everyone doesn't have the access that I do.......

If you get the magazines earlier than when they hit stands then, yes, the content is considered spoiler-y. Just mark it in the subject header. How/where do you get it a week ahead?

I'm new to the board but I think the rules are totally acceptable. Some of the things people say about actors is just mean. If you don't like them then don't watch them. I hope no one takes this as offensive because I didn't mean for it to be that way. I'm just glad to have someone to talk to that knows what I'm talking about instead of my husband who just nods his head like he's listening. LOLladyirismom

I have read the rules, understand and agree with them.

No problem I understand perfectly.

Read and understood.

I have read the rules and understand and agree

I agree and accept Rules policy.

Read the rules and other people replies. Nothing nice to say about Mala here, therefore, I will just keep my mouth shut and just roll my eyes.