Paul, ITA...I hate the new opening..... I do love the end with Erica, Kendall, and the idiot sister.....I miss the photo album.... Miss the history... I guess Frons & co are getting thier wish... All the great history wiped away to be replace by the shirtless wonder, the gruesome twosome, and the newbies from hell..,...

It is horrible. I hate it.

Another thing I hate about it, but I had the same problem with the old opening is the line up...Erica is first, as she should be, but WTH is she followed by the gruesome twosome..The fact that the gruesome twosome are in the second & third shots ticks me off...Not to mention, the shirtless wonder follows Kendall and comes before Tad, Jesse, Angie, JR....etc...Just doesn't seem right that the two most hated characters in daytime, alone with the shirtless wonder and a bunch of newbies come before the vets...

I hate it too. I also hate it because the vile green gnat is right after Susan Lucci. Sorry but she doesn't have that much stature with the show to be in that position, just as Cameron Mathison shouldn't be after Susan Lucci either.It should be Susan Lucci, Michael E. Knight, Alicia Minshew, Darnell Williams and Debbie Morgan, Jill Larsen then...the rest all bunched together for three seconds. Then it should end with La Lucci and Minshew.

I don't like the new credits at all. They lack the wonderful references to the history of the show that the old credits had. I hate that the newbies are listed before the vets, especially this shirtless creep of a doctor and his sister right after Kendall. Why is there a need to have anyone shirtless in the credits in the first place? It is tasteless and cheapens the image of the show. Also ,why is Kendall not shown with Spike and Ian? Now that Zach is gone, the boys are her whole life. Spike and Ian have been major characters in Kendall and Zach's story and deserve recognition in the credits a lot more then some of the worthless newbies. If Bianca's daughters are shown and Jake and Amanda are shown wheeling their son, then Kendall deserves to be recognized as a single mother raising two sons. What irks me the most is that the credits are blatently agenda driven and do not represent the rich history of AMC.

Quote: What irks me the most is that the credits are blatently agenda driven and do not represent the rich history of AMC. Diva, ITA with your entire post.... Most especially, the quoted part above...Agenda Driven is exactly what it is...Not only the opening credits, but the entire show...In what universe would the two most hated characters/couple in daytime history come before the vets?????In what universe would newbies be shown before legacy characters fans love & want to see???I have never understood why the character of Ryan & GL are 2nd & 3rd in the line up.... While characters like Jesse, Angie, Tad, even Adam are shoved to the very back.....Why must Ryan & GL follow Erica???Why must newbies be placed in front of Jesse, Angie, Tad, etc....I'll tell you why, because Brian Frons decided a long time ago, that Cameron & Rebecca are AMC...... No offense to them, but thier characters are just useless.....and they are not on the same level as SL, MEK, DW, DM......but Frons insists....I miss the photo album..... I hate the agendas that are wrecking the show...but until Frons is given a pink slip, sadly nothing will change...

I am not even going to argue with Rebecca and Cameron being up there in the credits. I realize that is nothing that is ever going to change that..and much as I dislike their characters, at the very least, they have been there a lot of years.However, the idea of Griffin and Cara being immediately after Kendall - IN FRONT of a gazillion other actors who have spent many years with AMC is just disloyal and disrespectful. Honestly, you have MEK who has been on the show practically from the beginning and he is stuck somewhere in the middle (with no real storyline either)...same with Bobbi Eakes and others. I don't even like Annie but Melissa has been on the show how many years..and we get these newbies in front of them? I find it a huge turn-off. Even the wonderful Thorsten Kaye started out in the middle of the credits and had to work his way up to the beginning. And he was an Emmy award nominee and had a good fan following on not one but two soaps. Why did he have to earn his way to the top and everyone else is just placed there?More recently, we got Jamie Luner, and now Jordi and Lindsay front and center - before they have earned their spots. It DOES reek of agenda and again ABC seems to believe that they have to tell us each day how important and wonderful their characters are by shoving them in the front of the credits. I have one question for ABC. How has this been working for you the last few years???? Talk about slow learners...And like so many of you have mentioned, where are the old photos? TPTB are so off - target, it's amazing they are still in charge...but that's another one of life's great mysteries.

Quote:I am not even going to argue with Rebecca and Cameron being up there in the credits. I realize that is nothing that is ever going to change that..and much as I dislike their characters, at the very least, they have been there a lot of years.However, the idea of Griffin and Cara being immediately after Kendall - IN FRONT of a gazillion other actors who have spent many years with AMC is just disloyal and disrespectful. Honestly, you have MEK who has been on the show practically from the beginning and he is stuck somewhere in the middle (with no real storyline either)...same with Bobbi Eakes and others. I don't even like Annie but Melissa has been on the show how many years..and we get these newbies in front of them? I find it a huge turn-off. Kathy, I must respectfully disagree about Cameron, Rebecca and Melissa, none of them have been there longer than Michael E. Knight and shouldn't be in the positions they're in. The only reason Cameron and Rebecca are there in those positions is because of Frons mistaken perception that they are the' stars' of the show.I complained about Pratt and his FU attitude about character integrity and show history, but it all begins with Frons. He allows it to happen. If he had the respect for AMC's history, it wouldn't be at the bottom of the heap in the ratings department.As for Cara and Griffin, other than Liza, I have never seen two more unpopular characters introduced to AMC and I've been watching since oh 1978. They are intruding more than being integrated.And why does Amanda, who is recurring have a scene?

I obviously was not clear in my comments.

About Melissa.... I don't think she should be in front of MEK at all. I was saying that even though I am NOT an Annie fan..at least she has been there for a number of years and in no way should the newbies be in front of her or MEK or anyone who has put in their time.

Likewise, in no way do I think either Rebecca or Cameron should be in front of MEK..or some of the others who have been there for many more years than they have. I was only justifying why even though I detest Ryan and Greenlee, the actors could arguably be in front of the newbies.

My main comment was that even TK had to prove himself on the show before he was moved up. Why did JL, LH and JV get there with no need to prove themselves at all..they all got a free pass.

Quote:Quote:I am not even going to argue with Rebecca and Cameron being up there in the credits. I realize that is nothing that is ever going to change that..and much as I dislike their characters, at the very least, they have been there a lot of years.

However, the idea of Griffin and Cara being immediately after Kendall - IN FRONT of a gazillion other actors who have spent many years with AMC is just disloyal and disrespectful. Honestly, you have MEK who has been on the show practically from the beginning and he is stuck somewhere in the middle (with no real storyline either)...same with Bobbi Eakes and others. I don't even like Annie but Melissa has been on the show how many years..and we get these newbies in front of them? I find it a huge turn-off.

Kathy, I must respectfully disagree about Cameron, Rebecca and Melissa, none of them have been there longer than Michael E. Knight and shouldn't be in the positions they're in.

The only reason Cameron and Rebecca are there in those positions is because of Frons mistaken perception that they are the' stars' of the show.

I complained about Pratt and his FU attitude about character integrity and show history, but it all begins with Frons. He allows it to happen. If he had the respect for AMC's history, it wouldn't be at the bottom of the heap in the ratings department.

As for Cara and Griffin, other than Liza, I have never seen two more unpopular characters introduced to AMC and I've been watching since oh 1978. They are intruding more than being integrated.

And why does Amanda, who is recurring have a scene?

Kathy you made yourself clear. My point is that the newbies, the Castillos, Liza even though the character isn't new, the actress is, and even Melissa, regardless how many years she's been on (she hasn't been on longer than Jacob Young or Bobbi Eakes) , they all belong at the end. Jamie Luner was placed right after Zach the first day she appeared to show the esteem in which she was held by the then writer Pratt. It added to her unpopularity. I read on all the boards at the time, she was resented because of her position in the credits.Wasn't the old scheme of things in the original opening done by family? I remember Phoebe's family first then the Martins? but regardless of whether or not the actors have put their time in it's obvious the opening, as is the writing, are both agenda driven.How sad is it that even the opening credits tick off the fans of this poor, poor once glorious soap?