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Just read that David Canary is leaving AMC. They said his primary reason for leaving is the relocation to California. Don't know more than that or what they plan on doing but another one bites the dust. That is a huge loss along with Palmer. I truly don't think that role can be recast, do you?
Quote:God No!!! They cannont, I repeat CANNOT recast Adam Chandler. Whomever they find, would never live up to the original, so they shouldn't even bother. AMC needs to get it together. They could have improved the show, without doing this move. It has cost the show too much and I don't the losses that they've taken are worth a bigger set and more room for the characters to move around in. Agree 110%. You can't recast him nor would you want to. This move was not a good move. Don't understand how it could be cheaper in LA considering the price of moving everyone. Dumb, dumb, dumb move...
Is this news? It's been alll over for ever. Isn't that why Julia Barr came back..to help end Adam's storyline?David Canary was only going out to CA to finish off his contract. He's settled into CT where he lives and didn't want to move and is old enough to retire I guess. Plus, with the crappola he's been given (and is now being given), I wouldn't waste my time either.I strongly doubt that they would even consider recasting..but who knows.
Quote:Is this news? It's been alll over for ever. Isn't that why Julia Barr came back..to help end Adam's storyline?David Canary was only going out to CA to finish off his contract. He's settled into CT where he lives and didn't want to move and is old enough to retire I guess. Plus, with the crappola he's been given (and is now being given), I wouldn't waste my time either.I strongly doubt that they would even consider recasting..but who knows. Sorry was news to me. I hadn't heard or read anything about it. Read it online on AOL I think and they were treating it like it was news. I had no idea the reason Brooke was coming back had anything to do with Adam. That is interesting.
Agree 110%. You can't recast him nor would you want to. This move was not a good move. Don't understand how it could be cheaper in LA considering the price of moving everyone. Dumb, dumb, dumb move... Losing the anchors of this show, one by one, due to this move to LA is the beginning of the end for AMC I fear. Rather than move why not try cutting the dead weight from your cast list first? How much money could have been saved by losing Liza, Colby, Marissa, David, and NOT rehiring Greenlee? And moves are never cheap. How much that whole transition cost?
Not to mention, getting rid of Ryass Lavery...The money they could have saved there...They could have used the amazing cast they had left...after getting rid of the waste, such as those mention, hired decent writers and fixed what was broken..Instead, Frons moved the show, which caused them to lose the best of the best...DC, TK, AM, to name a few....This move was so not worth losing the characters of Adam, Zach, Kendall.....It was not worth losing the amazingly talented actors like DC & TK......I've said this before and I will ask this again..WTH does Brian Frons still have a job????
Quote:Quote:Is this news? It's been alll over for ever. Isn't that why Julia Barr came back..to help end Adam's storyline?David Canary was only going out to CA to finish off his contract. He's settled into CT where he lives and didn't want to move and is old enough to retire I guess. Plus, with the crappola he's been given (and is now being given), I wouldn't waste my time either.I strongly doubt that they would even consider recasting..but who knows. Sorry was news to me. I hadn't heard or read anything about it. Read it online on AOL I think and they were treating it like it was news. I had no idea the reason Brooke was coming back had anything to do with Adam. That is interesting. I am sorry. I wasn't trying to make you feel badly. I just was suprised that you had not heard already since it's been around for so long and I am not one to poke around at a gazillion websites. I think the news you saw today was because David Canary specifically gave his personal statement that he was leaving..as opposed to it being posted by others earlier.Again, sorry for my comment and the way it came out. I meant no disrespect.
I agree with you. There is tons of dead weight on AMC that they could get rid of.MarissaColbyFake Liza - They could have brought her on as someone as, cause she's not working out as Liza, for me.ScottRandiBrockReformed crazy blonde chick at Fusion - can never remember her name. Let's you know how much I think of her.JRThey could lose all of these characters and I wouldn't care one bit. Hire some good writers and they could have stayed in NY and returned AMC to its glory days. And like I've said so many times, if you're going to bring characters back on the show, bring back Gillian, Vanessa, Leo, Original Babe, Original Liza & Dixie. These are characters that I would be happy to see. The mindless dribble of the revamped Fusion girls is pointless, and I think we are all TRULY sick of watching Colby and her stupid plan to bring down Annie.
Ok, I must be in the minority on this one, I had no idea that DC was leaving the show. I don't know how I will be able to watch it without him. And I want to add a few other peope to your ax list, Annie, Ryan, Emma, Damon, Greenlee, just to name a few others. I am still in shock about DC, it is totally upsetting that they would prefer to lose their best actors, just to move out there and get greenpuke. thats all that they care about anyway is her. JMO.
I agree. Seriously.....I almost cried when I heard the news. I have been watching AMC since I was a kid and it's not going to be the same without David Canary. They have cut so many talented actors and written so many crappy stories over the past couple of years, that I'm really starting to believe that there is no hope for what used to be my favorite soap. I keep waiting to hear the news of cancellation, because of the hack job that Charles Pratt Jr. has done and the continued poor job of Brian Frons.ABC hear our cries, "GET RID OF BRIAN FRONS." He apparantly has had it in for AMC for some time now, and he is running this show into the ground. Moving AMC has just been the final straw, because it has been the catalyst for continued bad news for the fans.On a personal note, David Canary, I want you to know that you will be truly missed. AMC will not be the same without you. You've been on AMC ever since I can remember, and they will never find another actor as talented as you. I hope that they serve you some much deserved justice on your last days with AMC, because you are a class act and in my opinion, completely irreplaceable.
"Losing the Anchors"...very good point & one I agree with whole hearted.It is a huge mistake not keeping the older folks. Those that die natural is fine and a natural part of life. Not keeping or letting people age is wrong. I want all ages on my shows, from Kids to the older people.Joe Martin is all we had left & they took him away. Jack, Erica & Tad, need to always be on the show & allowed to age.Fake Liza is a perfect point. We get a new one at least 10 years younger than she should be. Let the charactors age & keep them.I will miss Adam, but I read that is why they killed Stuart, because one actor played 2 roles. That was the beginning of the end of the GREAT David Canary. Now that AMC is starting over I hoped they would fix the mess they are in. I am sorry for JL, but as far as being Liza she needs to go. I like JL a lot, but she still is not Liza. She being hired was a large screw up that can only be fixed by re-casting Liza. I still think Mary Beth Evans(?I think is her last name. She used to play Kayla on Days & Catherine on GH) would be the most perfect Liza.
Marcy Walker was and is the only Liza Colby. I have no idea why they even considered recasting Liza with JL. Not that she is a bad actress. I loved her on Melrose Place, but for whatever reason, she is not able to pull of the Tad/Liza chemistry. I believe the main reason for this is because TPTB brought her back and tried to make the character this sex kitten...an example of this would be the horribly raunchy scene with Liza and Zach. That behavior was not ever really displayed in the original Liza. Yes, she has always been sexy, but the root of Liza's character is that she is smart, tough, a quick thinker on her feet and she knows how to manipulate a situation to her favor, without having to jump into the sack to accomplish that.I still say they could have brought JL on as a hot shot attorney, new in town....and then try to build something with Tad, because she is not working, for me, as a good Liza replacement. It reminds me of when they briefly replaced Greenlee with that other chick....it was a horrible decision.I, of course, feel the same way about the actresses that have played Colby. The one they have now is a complete total pain to watch. I, no kidding, mute the television when she's on screen. The first teenage girl they had playing the role was so much better than the last two replacements. Don't know who is doing the casting over at AMC, but that person needs to lose their job, or at least knnow that sometimes if you can't get the original back, it's best just to create a new character because some characters just can't be replaced. Plus, think about it, when you have an actress like Marcy Walker who has played the role of Liza Colby over a 13 year period, it's hard for just anyone to step in those shoes. And it's even harder for the audience to watch some newcomer come in and destroy the character. Grab a clue, AMC, and lose JL.....she's not cutting it.
I don't think they can get Marcy Walker Smith back. She made it pretty clear that her family and her Church work is her full time choice. I respect that just like with TK.I agree JL would have been great to add to the show, but not as Liza. The Colby deal is really odd to me. I can't keep up with these actresses playing her. And is it just me or do they try to make #3 look like #2?
Yeah, I think I've noticed the transformation of Colby. Whatever they are doing, its not working. The problem is, no one wants to watch an iconic show like AMC that revolves around a character like Colby. Most soaps feature their teen/young actors in the summer months. Colby number one was Ambyr Childers. She was by far the best portrayer. Number two was Brianne Moncrief who was annoying and then the current Colby is Natalie Hall....the worst one of them all. She can't act, and what's worse is they show her too often. Can we focus on some veterans? The more experienced and talented actors should be receiving way more face time. Save Colby, Marissa, Randi, JR, and Scott for the summer time, when people are on vacations and don't have to be subjected to their horrible acting skills.Speaking of Scott....I'm not too impressed with that recast decision either. I think AMC should receive an award for THE WORST RECAST DECISIONS FOR 2009. They win that one hands down.
Ok I have to say I totally agree about JL as Liza. She needs to go. And the new Colby needs to go as well, they need to bring Ambyr Childers back. Now I have to voice my opinion that I personally do not agree that the replacement they had for Greenlee was horrible. Sabine Signh was fantastic, at least she wasn't boring to watch. Rebecca Budig is boring, pathetic and as annoying as Annie. Sabine and Aiden had such chemistry that they just threw all of it away just to bring back the pet RB. I don't understand why they think RB is more important than SL, DC, MK, WW, DW, and DM. She makes me want to puke when I watch her. JMO
Maybe the recast of Greenlee wasn't that horrible, but the storyline that she was a part of was. And I don't know what it is about AMC lately, with force-feeding Greenlee down our throats. I think the main problem is, they are hoping that her previous popularity will in some way save the show.....but they are forgetting that what helped make Greenlee such a popular character was having her paired up with her one and only true love, LEO!! Ever since Leo has been off the canvas, Greenlee has lost that spark that we used to enjoy. Trying to force the audience to accept Ryan & Greenlee as this big supercouple isn't working. I guess they aren't reading all the blogs or emails that the fans are emailing and posting. No one wants to see Ryan & Greenlee together. Ryan deserves to be alone. He's a big jerk that has run over every woman he's ever come in contact with. I said it before and I'll say it again. Here are the list of couples that belong together on AMC. TPTB take a few notes.Jack & EricaGreenlee & LEO!!Ryan & GILLIANTad & DixieKrystal & AdamAnnie & Scott.....it's inevitableAmanda & David....because I'm so sick of JakeAngie & Jessie....they've got this one right, for nowKendall & Zach
What do you have against Jake? I like him and Amanda. How about Greenlee and nobody. I just don't like her. RB drives me as nutty as Ryan. Now if those two want to move away I will help them pack & load up the moving truck.Leo was great (yumm) & I might could live with a replacement but they would have to be very careful who they pick. Josh D was / is so special, not only handsome but he is funny. He is a all around good actor to me. I think it can be done but very very carefully...or JD could come back & take her they cold move away.Ryan needs to just go away.
I used to like Jake, but his complete total obsession with David has driven me totally crazy. He's recently married to Amanda and just found out that Trevor is his son, but he spends all of his spare time chasing after David. AMC needs to give him something more productive to do, because the whole David obsession story isn't working for me. Amanda is a beautiful woman, and the portrayer is a wonderful actress...I just think they could give Jake and Amanda something else to do besides constantly chase after David.I wish they would bring Leo back. I recently read an interview that he did, saying that he would love to come back to AMC, so hopefully TPTB will get a clue and bring him back. Greenlee was a lot more tolerable when she was with Leo, because he was the only man that gave as good as he got, when it came to Greenlee. Ryan is a useless terd that needs to be flushed down the toilet.
Is anyone else sick of the Chandler Family? Here's a piece of advice. Let all of the annoying Chandler kids move out of the damn mansion!!! They're all ADULTS and they don't need to live with their daddy anymore. And I don't know why in the hell Scott is living in the mansion! He keeps insisting that he can't be left alone with Annie, because his attraction for her is too strong....well, here's a news flash Scott, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THERE!! I don't understand why they are writing this ridiculous story for the Chandler's. None of Adam's kids should be living under his roof, in the first place. Maybe if they move out, we won't have to look at them so much. This is the reason why none of this crappy storyline works. If the kids lived in their own homes they could have their own lives and their own storylines.
It's all just sad.I think a recast Liza could have worked if they had found an age-appropriate actress with the same qualities that MW brought to Liza....then we could have at least bought it. But they went off-path, and it was/is a disaster.Ambyr Childers embodied the spirit of Adam and Liza the best. That was a casting coup. I think recasts - when done correctly with thought and research- can work wonderfully. But, with AMC's track record, all bets are off.I think a Palmer recast could work, (and I am standing by that!) because Palmer has not be prominently featured in a long while.An Adam recast would be disastrous. Unless Adam were off canvas for several years. Then it might. There are very few men that play haughtiness like David Canary!A liza recast would work right now. Seriously.GET AMBYR BACK!
They so need to get Ambyr back, because this chick that they've got playing Colby, right now, is just horrible. I totally agree with you about Ambyr. You actually believed that she was the daughter of Adam & LIza.I am totally behind a Liza recast. Jamie Luner is just not cutting it as Liza. AMC has made some big mistakes with recasts and she was/is definitely one of them. I don't know if I trust them to properly replace Palmer. Granted, he hasn't been on the canvas a while, but his past performances are legendary. Plus, if AMC just throws someone into this character without doing proper research, it will just end up ticking off the audience, yet again. And let's face it, with their track record, they are bound to mess it up.I still think that the best angle would be to introduce some new charaters from Palmer's family. That way the actors can start from scratch and they don't have to worry about living up to the previous actors performances.
Quote:I still think that the best angle would be to introduce some new charaters from Palmer's family. That way the actors can start from scratch and they don't have to worry about living up to the previous actors performances. I think that would work, and they can keep Palmer alive off-screen for a while, and really take the time to either search the recast, or write a great send-off worthy of James Mitchell.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm really sick of seeing and hearing advertisements about "Rediscovering All My Children." Reason being, there's nothing new to discover. We are still be subjected to the same crappy storylines, and shows featuring the worst talent that AMC has to offer (aka Colby, Ryan, Scott, Annie). How can we rediscover something that has never changed? I'm just about to lose my patience with AMC. I'm ready for the new writers' stories to take effect, becuase every time I see, "Written by Charles Pratt Jr.," I simply turn the channel.
I feel ya. I still record AMC, but the interesting thing is although I still ff through the majority of scenes, there have been scenes where i will at least give them a little peek. But to be honest with you, AMC stopped being must see tv for me when they killed off Dixie. I still haven't recovered from that, and until they bring her back alive, I don't think I ever will.
I have already lost patience..and I do understand it does take time for the "changes" to take effect.. Then don't advertize something before it happens.
That said, I see them promos - AMC has changed? Not seeing it yet. But the latest promo is pushing the idea that Ryan is so irresistable.
Maybe it's me, but the more and more the show feels they need to PUSH something and to TELL us how to feel, then the less I believe it. If I can't see for myself that there is a new AMC and I don't see for myself just how irresistable Ryan is, than perhaps it's not true and is just another selling job with little substance behind the claims.
IMO the character of Ryan has not been irresistable in years and years - and to promote him as such makes AMC look like a joke.
Ryan is consistently written as a character that moves from one woman to another as often as most people change their socks. He was just involved with Erica and now he is persuing Greenlee, with what maybe a day of sadness in between? His actions are continually whitewashed and no one questions it. Just recently, Ryan told Greenlee that he and Kendall became involved in grief but decided it wasn't working and moved on. Funny, I remember him taking Kendall from Zach as he vowed his hatred of Zach and promised to ruin Zach's life - taking Kendall was just a small part of it. I also remember Kendall breaking it off..it was not a mutual decision. The glorification of Ryan continues.
So where exactly is the change and how and why is Ryan supposed to be irresistable?
I'll just second everything in Kathy's post. I admit that the writing has been bad for Ryan for a long time, but it's been bad for just about every character as well, and I don't have the same level of disgust and disinterest as I do with Ryan. These are words which ABC will never agree to, but they need to be said: Ryan needs to be backburnered. Taking him from one woman's bed to another is killing this character. It's eyerolling, and we never see him run Cambias or do whatever it is he does at Fusion, other than support Erica's ideas. And he should actually try to be a friend to people who need it, and not just take from people all the time. I'm watching episodes from last year just to get my Zach and Kendall fix, and Ryan was a liar, a deluded sadist and an immoral man who slept with a married woman to stick it to Zach, and he never got called on it. He did this all while telling Kendall that he was her friend and would never hurt her. It's one year later, and it's still infuriating. And now that he's the "star" of AMC, I'm not interested in watching AMC until some of my favorite actors return to the show in the not-too-distant future. :-)
I so agree with you!!! It's like TPTB think we are all idiots and don't remember what happens from day to day. I remember Ryan pursuing Kendall like a madman, just like he is with Greenlee now. He is so infuriating!! The man goes from relationship to relationship leaving carnage all over the place, and we are expected to believe that Ryan is this great guy. Greenlee deserves better than Ryan. Aidan or Leo should be with Greenlee. Ryan just needs to be alone.And I know I've brought this up before, but I want to say it again, "RYAN SUCKS AS A DAD!!" Remember how he was camped out in Annie's hospital room, after he virtually caused her to have a miscarriage from badgering her, and he was so determined to make sure that he got custody of Emma and sent Annie off to prison for killing Stuart? How oftern have we seen him with his daughter, that he loves so much? He has a short attention span. Notice how he's never at Cambius Industries? The man does nothing but run around town, bursting into people's homes and making demands that they do what he wants. Speaking of that, "DAVID HAYWARD NEEDS TO LOCK HIS DAMN FRONT DOOR!!" So sick of the Scooby-Doo Detective Agency (aka Tad, Jake and Ryan) bursting in his front door.I also agree with the fact that, Yes it will take time for things to change from the old head writer to the newly assigned writers.....but please quit advertising that we all "Rediscover" AMC. Nothing has changed, so quit acting as if it has. Put some real changes into affect:Bring back a LIVE DixieReunite Leo with GreenleeBring Vanessa, a true villain back on the sceneBring Julia Barr back for good, instead of this 2 month stintHurry up and bring back Kendall and Zach...Work something out with TK, to convince him to stayBring back the "Original Babe" and get rid of MarissaLose the Fake LizaAnd get rid of the annoying ColbyThose are some real changes that we could notice and be happy with, instead of half of the show being dedicated to Ryan and Greenlee, and the other half being dedicated to Annie vs Colby.
GMAFB...I just saw the Rediscover Ryan promo and not only did I LMAO, but I had to hold by the bile rising in my throat..Ryan---Irresistable..Are they really still this delusional....I get that they've lost & are losing their most talented actors and characters that fit that description, but to continue to push this dead horse is just stupid...Ryan Lavery is the most loathesome character in daytime...He's the poster boy for Abusers Annonymous...This characters time has come & gone... Now, he's just the epitomy of whats wrong with ABC/AMC...Ryan Lavery is a woman abusing jerk.... He's a low-life..What's so freakin irresistable about a man who uses & abuses woman, uses his kids as tools/weapons to control their mothers....What's so freakin irresistable about a man who changes loves of his life faster than we change our underwear...Ryan physically, emotionally, & psychologically abused Kendall, GL, & Annie....It continues to amaze me that woman on the AMC staff continue to attempt to push this vile character as a good guy, hero, saint, doer of good deeds...Ryan is never held responsible for his vile, reprehensible actions.....His victims always take the blame & pay the price...Even the great Erica Kane had her backbone, brains, and self-esteem taken away just to pair her up with that moran...Nothing has changed with AMC...and the only reason I'm going to watch for a few days in April is to see the two most Irresistable characters in daytime return for a few days to prop the waste characters that are sucking the life out of AMC...As long as [censored] continue to promote this ish, Ryan irresistable, GL victim, Annie whatever....etc.... Nothing has changed...
Here, Here!!! I so agree with you. Why don't they go back to the drawing board with Ryan and make him a full-fledged villain? I mean, it's not as if the fans like him anyway. Return him back to his coniving con artists ways, like when he first came on the show. Geez, now that I think about it, Ryan has always been a jerk. He went after Gillian to get her money, then he bounced back and forth betweeen Greenlee and Kendall, then terrorized Annie for a minute and now he's back to making Greenlee's life a living hell. Give David a break from being the town villain, and focus energies on Ryan....everyone already hates him.
That doesn't sound like such a bad idea. It pains me to say this, but AMC used to be my favorite show of all time. The show has been on 40 mostly glorious years, yet, the past 3 HW have almost managed to destroy it. TPTB are really not listening to us. We WANT Dixie back alive and with Tad, we are tired of looking at Ryan's face everyday day, we want more Jesse and Angie, and I am not getting this nuLiza. Oh by the way, what is Colby's purpose. You would think that since she is the daughter of Adam and Liza, she would be quite the spitfire and have a major impact on story and the show, but she has been insipid at best. I wished they had kept Ambyr Childers and paired her with Frankie instead of getting cold feet and dropping that storyline.
That's the thing...Ryan is a Villain, but he's an uninteresting one......Billy Clyde was a villain, but he was interesting...David a villain who has a heart...and he's interesting as hell..Adam villain with a heart and interesting..Ryan is a one note villain....and they spend too much time, energy, and ruin/damage to many great interesting characters just to prop him....IMHO, it's just too late...The only fix is to kill him off permanently.... Get rid of him....because it's long overdue...He's a joke as a good guy, hero, saint, whatever...and an even bigger joke as a villain because even Lil A could kick his butt...
I really wish they would put Ryan is a car wreak or something. Let him stay in a coma for a while...a long while. Then wake up with memory loss & write him over. Thats the only way to fix him.I have to agree about the org Babe. I liked her, I would love to sxee her back. Didn't she move to the west ooast? Maybe Jamie could come back too??And I of course what Liza to go far far away
Quote:I really wish they would put Ryan is a car wreak or something. Let him stay in a coma for a while...a long while. Then wake up with memory loss & write him over. Thats the only way to fix him.I have to agree about the org Babe. I liked her, I would love to sxee her back. Didn't she move to the west ooast? Maybe Jamie could come back too??And I of course what Liza to go far far away This was a post about Adam leaving and it has turned into a Ryan bashing. I don't like the character either and am upset about the same things but I am more upset about David Canary leaving than what they are doing with Ryan right now. Sorry. Don't mean to offend but the posting was about that. So is Adam going to ride into the sunset with Brooke. Would be weird for him to up and go away from Pine Valley. Show is going to be missing a big character and an amazing actor.
You are sooo right. That would be the only way to redeem Ryan and give him a new face for the fans. Do to Ryan what GH did to Jason. Let Ryan be in a horrible accident, put him in a coma for a while and when he wakes up he has no memory of anyone and a completely different personality. This would give Ryan a fresh start with the audience, because as things stand right now, the fans hate him and want him written off the show. In my opinion, this is the only way to fix the Ryan character and make him more tolerable. Plus, it could open up stories for the other characters. However, if this were done, it has to be done right. Don't put him in a coma and then have the whole cast sitting at his bedside. Let the show go on, and don't revolve it around him, just let it be some horrible thing that SOME of the characters have to deal with.
I have already said I hate to see the GREAT David C. go..Get over your self. Everytine I post you bash it. Not all the others who are not saying what you want, just me.Guess what I will talk about what the others are talking about. Chill OUT
Watch out Tbreath...some are freaking cause we are talking about something else & not David C. BTW I love David C!!!! Have ever since he was on Bonanza.
Quote:Watch out Tbreath...some are freaking cause we are talking about something else & not David C. BTW I love David C!!!! Have ever since he was on Bonanza. All I was saying it is just amazing to me that it always comes back to Ryan bashing and this particular post was about David. You are free to say what you want. I hate Ryan too but was hoping to talk about something other than him. I am sorry if you feel like I am going after you, I was not. I haven't posted on this site in months. Just the thing about Palmer and now David. Again, sorry didn't mean to upset you.
That's fine. I'm not offended or upset about any comments. I have already stated how I feel about David Canary leaving the show, so I was just moving on with something else. We all already know how big of a loss it's going to be for AMC to lose David Canary.I know that in the past, when I've stated things about Zach, everyone got their panties in a bunch, for me stating my opinion, so I don't get upset, I just say what I want. Gonna miss David like crazy, wish Brooke was staying longer, AND I wish Kendall & Zach would hurry and return...BUT MOST OF ALL, I hate Ryan!!! LOL Which is why I tend to ramble on about him. Sorry, but that's how I feel.
I'm agree 100%
Hey I am not upset...Sorry to get on anyones bad side. I don't know what the deal is on the AMC board but I seem to tick people off. I hear you about Ryan, it does seem to work that way whether him or the TK mess. Most of the threads on all the sites seem to leave the subject & you are right this is for Davis /Adam...but it easy to forget... unless you go to the first comment. This say's "New Flash". My computer always starts off with the last comments. Again sorry
Quote:Hey I am not upset...Sorry to get on anyones bad side. I don't know what the deal is on the AMC board but I seem to tick people off. I hear you about Ryan, it does seem to work that way whether him or the TK mess. Most of the threads on all the sites seem to leave the subject & you are right this is for Davis /Adam...but it easy to forget... unless you go to the first comment. This say's "New Flash". My computer always starts off with the last comments. Again sorry You need not apologize. Maybe I should just have not said anything. I just was getting frustrated and not with you, I am sorry that it appeared that way. We are good. Now what about this Ryan stuff? LOL. I just wish the show was better and not going to get any better while we lose our favorites. Agreed?
I feel you. I don't think anyone owes anybody an apology. We all come on here to vent and get our frustrations out. We all want the same thing, for the most part. We want our AMC back!! TPTB have their hands full with repairing all the damage that has been done. I will give this good news though.....when I tuned in today, I didn't see Charles Pratt Jr.'s name in the opening credits. So, in that respect, things are looking up. LOLThey need to just go back to the drawing board and return to some original soap opera formulas...romance, intrigue, thrills, real drama, suspence with good storytelling. That is the only thing that can help save AMC.
"We want our AMC back"Yes We Do!Again this is off the subject, but I can't help it...For 30+ years I have watched the ABC soaps. As far as AMC goes, I really miss it. Hopefully soon things will be back to close to normal.
I'm going to cut AMC some slack here. Lorraine Broderick has a herculean task before her to accomplish, that is to undo or correct the catastrophic mess Pratt made. In all honesty she hasn't much to work with a far as characters are concerned. Erica, David, Adam, Tad, Angie and Jessie are the charcters she should be focusing on to make me a believer again. But instead she is trying to correct Greenlee, Annie, Ryan, Scott, characters that are in no way likable or wanted by the fans. I don't care how much you promote Greenlee, she's a cold unromantic and vengeful gnome who hasn't grown or evolved since she tried to kill Laura English, outed Bianca and exposed Kendall's false pregnancy which almost landed he her on death row, none of which she has ever paid for. Ryan and she are the same character, selfish, self entitled arrogant users. They deserve each other and I hope they put them together so that will keep them away from other characters and I can ff them at the same time.Annie's despicable actions will never be corrected by making her a Chandler or giving her a better disposition. just cut your losses and get rid of her.I watched today and what I saw between Erica and David needs to be explored. they have sexual tension, sophistication and history with the show. I want more of them.But OMG, Borissa and and her bangs need to go. Give this character a personality. Start a morning show with her as a happy homemaker but give her the temperament of a Leona Helmsley, Martha Stewart or Sue Ellen or whatever her name was on the old Mary Tyler Moore Show. This character is dead but forgot to lie down.I cannot wait for Zendall to return. Too bad most of her storyline will be with Greenlee. If Greenlee is not understanding of her friend's behavior then I say Kendall should shove Greenlee over a cliff again and make sure she's dead.
Quote:I'm going to cut AMC some slack here. Lorraine Broderick has a herculean task before her to accomplish, that is to undo or correct the catastrophic mess Pratt made. In all honesty she hasn't much to work with a far as characters are concerned. Erica, David, Adam, Tad, Angie and Jessie are the charcters she should be focusing on to make me a believer again. But instead she is trying to correct Greenlee, Annie, Ryan, Scott, characters that are in no way likable or wanted by the fans. I don't care how much you promote Greenlee, she's a cold unromantic and vengeful gnome who hasn't grown or evolved since she tried to kill Laura English, outed Bianca and exposed Kendall's false pregnancy which almost landed he her on death row, none of which she has ever paid for. Ryan and she are the same character, selfish, self entitled arrogant users. They deserve each other and I hope they put them together so that will keep them away from other characters and I can ff them at the same time.Annie's despicable actions will never be corrected by making her a Chandler or giving her a better disposition. just cut your losses and get rid of her.I watched today and what I saw between Erica and David needs to be explored. they have sexual tension, sophistication and history with the show. I want more of them.But OMG, Borissa and and her bangs need to go. Give this character a personality. Start a morning show with her as a happy homemaker but give her the temperament of a Leona Helmsley, Martha Stewart or Sue Ellen or whatever her name was on the old Mary Tyler Moore Show. This character is dead but forgot to lie down.I cannot wait for Zendall to return. Too bad most of her storyline will be with Greenlee. If Greenlee is not understanding of her friend's behavior then I say Kendall should shove Greenlee over a cliff again and make sure she's dead. I may be in the minority, but I like Scott. When Greenlee first came on the show, she pursued him. Now true enough, it was a different actor, but maybe they should revisit their history, there may be a spark there. I don't care for Marissa, but since she is David and Krystal's daughter I am willing to keep holding out hope that they give her a spark and she becomes compelling. Erica should be with Jack, but I really enjoyed the recent scenes between her and David, and it is rooted in their history since they were romantically involved and if I am not mistaken, said romance happened after she kidnapped him before. I keep hoping that when Cady McClain comes back they will see what they are missing and bring Dixie back full time. I am not seeing Tad with anyone else but her and she is too connected across the canvas, her return would affect alot of people just think of the storyline if Liza found out Dixie was alive but didn't tell Tad. That would be more in line with Liza's history although I don't see anyone else in that role but Marcy Walker. Jesse and Angie should be featured more and Natalia needs something to do. They need to either jumpstart her romance with Brot or find her something else to do. Maybe a romance with JR. They could bring something out of one another that has been missing for awhile.Oh, and I hope they don't kill off Adam. I would completely stop watching AMC. I am going to miss this character almost as much as I miss Dixie. I remember watching after he kidnapped Erica, and they along with Jeremy were in Canada. He was going to kill them. He was written into a corner as far as I was concerned, but I was hoping that they wouldn't write him off and he is still here 25 years later. There is going to be a HUGE hole in the show. Adam drove story for along time. And he was complex and dynamic. They are going to have to find someone or something else to take up the slack. Maybe bring back Pete Courtlandt as a savvy businessman, restart a romance with a recast Colby, and start a rivalry with JR. That would kickstart a renewed Chandler/Courtlandt rivalry and would be rooted in show history. It would also affect the whole canvas.And one more thing, when they do the Palmer Courtlandt memorial, they need to bring back Julie, Melanie, and Ross. Maybe they can connect Ross' return to coincide with Palmer's death and Adam's departure since he is Adam's nephew and Palmer's son.
You made a lot of good points and suggestions. Although, I don't like the Scott character. It may just be the portrayer, because I liked Scott when he was portrayed by Daniel Cosgrove. They need to recast him for that part, because the current actor is just painful to watch.
I like the idea of bringing back Pete Cortlandt and having a rivalry between him and JR. That would follow along with the true history of AMC and that would really open up stories for other characters, especially if they bring back Dixie for good, which is the only smart thing to do. She would be put in the middle of a family battle between her son JR and her cousin Pete. That would be interesting to watch. And of course, if they got Amber Childers back as Colby to spark a romance between her and Pete, that would just add to the family drama.
I stand by my opinion of bringing Vanessa and Leo back on the canvas. I don't like Greenlee with Ryan. Ryan deserves to be alone....PERIOD!! Plus, Vanessa was deliciously evil.
I don't mind a romance sparking between David and Erica. They've done it in the past, and it worked then. Plus, that would give Jackson something to fight for. Of course, if they were smart and brought back Brook full time, she and Jackson could always hook up.
And is it just me, or does anyone else miss Bianca and Reese? I think it was a bad decision to let those two go. I think there was a lot more story left to tell between those characters. Plus, Tamara Braun is an excellent actress and it was a BIG mistake not to cash in on her acting chops.
Angie and Jessie need something to do as well. I, for one, think it was a bad idea to kill off Natalia's mother. There was WAY TOO MUCH story that could have been told there. I mean, Jessie was gone for 20 years and when he comes back on the scene he has a new love interest and a daughter. They just kind of brushed over the story very quickly without delving into the dynamics of it all.
And you are sooo right, Natalia needs something to do. She is a beautiful woman and we have yet to really see how good of an actress she is, because she gets no story to work with. Give her a real love interest. I'm not buying the whole thing with her and Brot. I don't feel any true chemistry between the two of them. I mean, come on let her fall in love with some hot new character, only to find out he secretly is involved in a world of crime. That would be interesting to watch.
Lorraine Broderick does have her work cut out for her, but it can be done. Dragging out these horrible stories that they are telling now won't help. Wrap them up and get going on some interesting stories. Do a re-write and re-shoot if you have to. The fans have had enough.
Yeah, not only would a renewed Courtlandt/Chandler rivalry put Dixie in the middle if they brought her back, but just think, Tad would be torn between his stepson and his brother. I like your Natalia suggestion. I think she could add value to show, and she is the daughter of Jesse. That should be a no brainer. I hate that they are having Angie be so passive with David, this is not the Angie I know who battled with her professor after he sexually harassed her, or who as a kid and adult fought like hell to be with Jesse before and after his "death" 20 years later. Instead of using Tad's uncle as the man that kept them apart, maybe they should have used Angie's dad. \He was a crime boss. He could have faked his death, and to me he would have been a more believable villian for them when Jesse came back and the story could have had more impact since he was a constant source of conflict when they were younger. He could have kept them apart all of these year. Or if they are going to keep Liza on, why not bring back Mia since she has a kid with Frankie (something the show has forgotten about but I haven't). That could possibly cause friction for Liza, Jesse, Angie, Frankie, and Randi and also show that Liza, Jesse, and Angie have a familial connection and it would be rooted in show history. Can you imagine Jesse and Liza at odds again? Wow!! Plus, Mia and Greenlee were friends so maybe she could be a stablizing force for Greenelee. Or an ally in her war with Erica to get back Fusion which would involve LIZA. More show history would come into play, because Mia helped start Fusion and Liza gave them the seed money.
And is it just me, or does anyone else miss Bianca and Reese? I think it was a bad decision to let those two go. I think there was a lot more story left to tell between those characters. Plus, Tamara Braun is an excellent actress and it was a BIG mistake not to cash in on her acting chops.With all due respect, I hope it's just you. I never want to see Reese or Bianca's face again unless they change the paternity of the 'most hated baby ever born.' That travesty of a storyline should never have been written let alone allowed to be aired. It effectively destroyed the return of Bianca forever in Pine Valley. I'm no fan of Bianca, but she's the daughter of Erica Kane, a legacy character, and should be part of the canvas of Pine Valley for a long time moreso than Greenlee or Ann, but Pratt did a number on her that just about obliterated every facet of that character's integrity. If she ever was asked to come back, they better have a plan to obliterate that baby too or change it's paternity if it must exist. If there was more story to tell, Pratt sabotaged it with that storyline because Bianca is toast.As for Reese, a total waste of airtime. And as far as her acting chops, sorry don't see them. It's all that arm flailing that got in the way. I guess the Academy of Arts and Sciences was able to crop it all out and give her an EMMY for DOOL.
Wow, I have never heard anyone say anything so horrible about an innocent baby. I don't like it when shows kill small children, and I think your suggestion is horrible. Eden Riegel is permanently tied to the show, since she is the daughter of Erica Kane, and I believe she should be. I guess I forgot though, all you exremely hardcore "Zendall" fans think that anyone that causes them grief should be obliterated from the planet. Nobody liked the storyline of Bianca using Zach as a sperm donor, I get it....but I still like Bianca. And I do think that Tamara Braun is a good actress.
With all due respect, I AM a hard core Zen fan but there are a lot of us out there and we all have diferent opinions about a lot of stuff..and I resent you lumping us all together with such a negative tone like we all have the same brain. That's just uncalled for. We are supposed to be talking about the show, not other posters here.
You asked a question about Bianca and Reese and made a comment and asked for other opinions. If differing opinions weren't wanted, why ask?
That said, I think the character of Bianca took a deadly hit under Pratt...he ruined her integrity, he ruined what she has always stood for and turned her into a spoiled 2 year old. It's going to take a long time for anyone to forget that mess of a storyline. You talk of a Kane legacy...All I think is the ruination of a relationship with her sister Kendall - two legacy characters.
Eden Riegel has posted on the web that she was hoping to come back since the show moved to LA where she lives...,but said the show is not interested. I see their problem..to bring her back brings the show back to a time that AMC would like to forget. It has nothing to do with my personal feelings about Bianca - who has spent a lot of her history pulling for Zen and being a big supporter. Sadly for Bianca fans, I think right now AMC is hoping out of sight- out of mind.
As for Tamara Braun, she got stuck with a loser of a storyline...and while I personally have nothing against her, I have no interest to see a character that was part of the joke storyline of the year - the lesbian who was involved with a man. That was an insult to gays everywhere..so no I don't really want her back either.
It seems however that bashing a couple of fictional characters is a no no.. but bashing an entire fan base made up of real people is ok? I don't agree..

God No!!! They cannont, I repeat CANNOT recast Adam Chandler. Whomever they find, would never live up to the original, so they shouldn't even bother. AMC needs to get it together. They could have improved the show, without doing this move. It has cost the show too much and I don't the losses that they've taken are worth a bigger set and more room for the characters to move around in.