Maybe they should at least sterilize the girl. She reproduces like an alley-cat.

If she's sleeping with someone she shouldn't, it's practically guarenteed she'll get pregnant. I think Spencer needs a younger brother, and maybe if Nicholas has another child he'll step up as a parent. I did appreciate Lucky giving Nick crap about his absentee parent routine.

I had been a Liz fan up until now. She is now over the top. I truly don't see any sparks between her and Nicolas, no matter how hard they try and this back and forth, between Nicolas and Lucky is reprehensible. She constantly talks to Lucky about telling the truth and not keeping secrets and yet she is the biggest hypocrite of all. It was fun watching Helena torture her yesterday, but unfortunately, she's gone for now. So we just have Liz whining constantly to Nicolas. Lulu has given her an out and Luke sure was trying to give her one yesterday, but she just keeps plugging along. I really would have like to see GV be the Lucky to deal with this, but it will be interesting to see how it's played with JJ as Lucky. Until then, I'll just keep FFwding the scenes with Liz and Nic.

With JJ coming back as Lucky I don't think he & Liz have good chemistry. maybe I remember wrong, but to me way back then I didn't like them together, it seemed forced. When she first came to town & was raped he was sweet taking care of her, but to me it was a good friendship, not romance...nor does he look like he could be the father (even adopted) of 2 boys.

Wow. I must be really in the minority about Liz. She has what, two kids? No different than Carly with different men. No different than Sonny (talk about fertile), I mean, really. Liz makes mistakes, but she should aslo be able to a life after all technically she is a single mother, regardless of Lucky helping out. I have no doubt she loves her kids, and if she enjoys knocking boots with Nik, than who am I to judge ( I mean seriously, who wouldn't like to see a bod like that?). Again, she has never claimed to be perfect, other characters have portrayed her as such. I like Liz. I like Liz and Nik more than Liz and Lucky. I am just not liking this whole storyline and how the writers are handling it. I think it could have been better had Lucky pushed Liz as he was to spend time with Nik then Lucky noticing the changes and finally seeing what maybe Liz and Nik weren't and telling them they had his blessing. That would have been a story worth watching. I am not liking the lying and stuff. There is already too much of that on the show.

"KNocking Boots" ...love the term

One other thought that occured to me. Is it really just her repsonsibility for birth control?? Why can't it be the man's fault for not wearing a condom? Granted it is best if both parties practive safe sex, however, it also takes two to tango and I just think you all are balming Liz for what others have done as well. Also as far as her sleeping with Jason, that was not really a planned event. If I recall she had just found out that Lucky was cheating on her with Maxie. She was emotionally distraught and obviously not thinking clearly (however, two wrongs do not and never will make a right). So, I guess, stop picking on my girl Liz!! There are other characters doing far worse out there.

Quote:One other thought that occured to me. Is it really just her repsonsibility for birth control?? Why can't it be the man's fault for not wearing a condom? Granted it is best if both parties practive safe sex, however, it also takes two to tango and I just think you all are balming Liz for what others have done as well. Also as far as her sleeping with Jason, that was not really a planned event. If I recall she had just found out that Lucky was cheating on her with Maxie. She was emotionally distraught and obviously not thinking clearly (however, two wrongs do not and never will make a right). So, I guess, stop picking on my girl Liz!! There are other characters doing far worse out there. I agree about Jason and her not cheating when the crap around her was going on. I want her to be with Jason not Nickolas omg that is just so gross brothers.

Welll....with GV & TC playing the brothers....I wouldn't mind being the cheese on that sandwhich!

I agree about the birth control, but you know if the guy isn't using a condom...The way these people mess around you'd think either they use condoms or have STD going around

Quote:Welll....with GV & TC playing the brothers....I wouldn't mind being the cheese on that sandwhich! Say that Paul!!

The writing is horrid for her right now in compairson to the writing Jason is getting coming out of the relationship with her she is being written this way IMO quite on purpose...Elizabeth and Lucky always take the hit..Jonathan is coming back and now instead of just getting back into their supercoupledom status she's muddied up with banging his brother gee that sure throws a brick in things...Dragging out the vets is what did it for me I mean when is the last time they mention Laura and Leslie taking pictures and the Spencers this and that Bobbie/Audrey....I just think whenver she's written with Lucky she turns into this "if I only had a brain" she's always been this way with Lucky...so I don't expect for it to change now...they made sure Elizabeth was good and muddied up for Jonathan's return as Lucky so she will kow tow and acquiesce as Elizabeth Webber always does.

Botox Bobby isn't getting alot of screen time at all! Maybe if she hadn't gotten the Botox.....

Maybe with Stephen Lars Webber coming back she'll have a male influence in her life that she doesn't have to sleep with.

Quote:Botox Bobby isn't getting alot of screen time at all! Maybe if she hadn't gotten the Botox..... LOL at the botox comment. A little too much botox if you ask me. She has always been pretty to me. Now she looks really crazy. jmo

I hate to say it, but she looks awful!! I used to really like Bobby, but I just can't look at her! She doesn't look like herself. That is bad cosmetic surgery.

It's a shame, she was so pretty.

As a fan of GH they write "all" women this way I mean you sleep with your mother's husband Monica slept with brothers and went back and forth for years. Carly slept with her mother's husband its the GH misogynistic writing...as for sluts I would give that crown to Sonny Corinthos. This is what soaps are on all of them Bold and Beautiful Brooke has slept with and played musical chairs with the Forresters for over 20 years and they are the #2 soap.

Its not indicative of Elizabeth Webber its indicative to me of "how males write women" (and some of these are women writers as well). She will sleep with whomever "they write her to" just like all the other women on this show. The good news she didn't plead no contest to prostitution and marry men to milk them for money.

The regime has trained their audience well, Nik is just a big of an A-wipe Lucky is his brother so imo he's equally as bad. But women are trained to just point out how horrible another woman is so Elizabeth (as her fans expect) will take the hit. However, I think Nik has been thrown under the same bus. But the writers will allow the woman to take the hit..."Most" of women who leave Jason are written poorly, Sam slept for revenge and hijacked his kid, she's been white-washed redeemed and he's back shagging her its nothing "good writing can't fix" Its all in the pen...

The worst part is that TC & RH have great chemistry & they could've really had something good if they'd written their story differently. There are so many different ways they could've gone with this, but they did this purposely to wreck both the characters & the "love" story. I believe it was to alienate Lucky & Lulu from Nik so they'd jump on board the "I love Ethan" train with their dad. TPTB are so determined to force Ethan down the audience's throats even at the cost of good writing & a potentially good coupling. An added bonus is the umpteenth boring rendition of the "Spencer/Cassadine" wars & oh goody! This time we can have brother against brother with 3 innocent children caught in the middle! Now, there's entertainment

Quote:The worst part is that TC & RH have great chemistry & they could've really had something good if they'd written their story differently. There are so many different ways they could've gone with this, but they did this purposely to wreck both the characters & the "love" story. I believe it was to alienate Lucky & Lulu from Nik so they'd jump on board the "I love Ethan" train with their dad. TPTB are so determined to force Ethan down the audience's throats even at the cost of good writing & a potentially good coupling. An added bonus is the umpteenth boring rendition of the "Spencer/Cassadine" wars & oh goody! This time we can have brother against brother with 3 innocent children caught in the middle! Now, there's entertainment I agree that the writers and TPTB seem to be forcing Ethan down the viewers' throats instead of letting things happen naturally. I also think the writers & TPTB missed their window of opportunity for a LizNick relationship. I would've liked to see it back when Lucky was presumed dead but really under Helena's control.

Depending on the chemistry between JJ & RH this time around. Nicolas and Liz together may be more appealing in the future.

To me they didn't have chemistry way back. I thought that they hole gang was cute when they would close Kellys down. I always liked Luke better with Em, they seemed to have something that he didn't have with Liz...that was the old Em.

Luke & Emily?! When did that go down?

Oops, sorry I mean Lucky.

LOL! Now, that would've been something to see!