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After watching today's show I cannot fathom how anyone can watch this lying, vindicative, horrible excuse for a lead that is Greenlee. I hate Ryan with the heat of a thousand suns, but I actually cheered him on at the end as he freed himself from this ugly and loathsome creature. Even he is too good for her.
What are they thinking making this character a lead? Pratt failed with Annie, then they attempt this? AMC used to have a variety of characters with all kinds of failings, but they had humanity and heart.. this character of Greenlee is cold, unfeeling and just plain ugly. No wonder AMC is bleeding viewers. The longer they try to make her the lead the more fans will tune out.No one wants to see this ugliness day after day.
Greenlee has never been a lead , she has always been a supporting character, now she just needs to be killed off for good. What a vile nasty piece of work this character is.
What's wrong with Lorraine Broderick ? I cannot believe she is responsible for this travesty. Please send Greenlee over a cliff again, and this time, find the body and bury it under a ton of dirt and rocks.
And did Grenelee kill a chicken on the way home and sew its feathers on her blouse today? How fugly!
I agree about the character assassination to a point...mostly because this is definiltey Greenlee as I have always seen her..selfish, self centered and a huge hypocrit. That said, I think Lorraine Broderick is taking her to a new low and I agree, I dont get that reasoning at all. Let's try and make a character TPTB hope will be a lead character and hold the show together... and make her as disagreeable and insensitive as possible....yup that makes a lot of sense, only NOT.
I do see that they needed to write a storyline that will work whether Zach/TK comes back to AMC or not in the future. Choosing between your husband/family and a "friend" who has turned on your more times than you can count however is ridiculous and a huge stretch...and I don't blame the character of Zach for not wanting to come back to Pine Valley.
For some reason, all the writers have seemed to think that the Greenlee-Kendall friendship means something and that its something the audience wants to see. I disagree. Nothing would make me happier than if they would never have a scene together again EVER. I would guess that most Kendall and/or Greenlee fans would agree.
Instead we hear that accidents are never really accidents and that according to Greenlee, Kendall really wanted to murder her friend over Ryan. Is that the biggest joke ever?
Quote:I agree about the character assassination to a point...mostly because this is definiltey Greenlee as I have always seen her..selfish, self centered and a huge hypocrit. That said, I think Lorraine Broderick is taking her to a new low and I agree, I dont get that reasoning at all. Let's try and make a character TPTB hope will be a lead character and hold the show together... and make her as disagreeable and insensitive as possible....yup that makes a lot of sense, only NOT.I do see that they needed to write a storyline that will work whether Zach/TK comes back to AMC or not in the future. Choosing between your husband/family and a "friend" who has turned on your more times than you can count however is ridiculous and a huge stretch...and I don't blame the character of Zach for not wanting to come back to Pine Valley. For some reason, all the writers have seemed to think that the Greenlee-Kendall friendship means something and that its something the audience wants to see. I disagree. Nothing would make me happier than if they would never have a scene together again EVER. I would guess that most Kendall and/or Greenlee fans would agree.Instead we hear that accidents are never really accidents and that according to Greenlee, Kendall really wanted to murder her friend over Ryan. Is that the biggest joke ever? Joke? I thought Greenlee should have been put in Oak Haven then and there. She's delusional and irrational. So is this storyline. I hated that Alicia Minshew and Thorsten Kaye came back for this. Especially Alicia Minshew. For her to come back in the middle of her maternity leave and have her character so villified and made to look as though she exists just for Greenlee to step on and kick around is a deal breaker to me. If I was Alicia Minshew, I would have my lawyer and agent sue ABC for what they did. That Kendall would even think about choosing between her husband and this wretch has made her as delusional as well. Kendall should have thrown Greenlee overboard with an anchor tied to her butt. Annie is a bad character because of the destruction to other characters and the death of an iconic character just to give that actress a storyline, and now this. Both of these characters need to go. Neither will ever pay for the wrongs they do or EVER be rational.AMC is suffering because of them. I agree about not seeing Kendall and Greenlee toghether again ever..it's not a friendship. Greenlee is no one's friend.There's no redemption for her. She needs to fold up her tent and leave town.
Well, no surprise here, but I'm not 100% convinced that Zach isn't coming back to Pine Valley. Not to get off track, but they did leave the door open and TK played it well, for which I'm grateful.Back to the topic: Greenlee is THE leading lady on AMC in terms of airtime and story domination. She's in all their commercials. She's featured in Sweeps storylines. AMC relies on her. And she's a totally unlikable witch. Is this smart promotion or storywriting? Is this smart anything? RB was all excited that Greenlee was going back to her roots with this storyline. I'm glad one person is because the ratings are awful and speaking for myself, who tuned in for Zendall, I'm tuning right back out now that Greenlee has her hubby free from charges and she's spewing lies and saying the most hateful, disgusting things. When Kendall returns and if she's without Zach, I will not watch Kendall try to patch things up with a woman who should be begging for her forgiveness after what she just did and all the horrible things she said to Zach about Zen's marriage. Kenlee gets worse and worse. What's lower than sewer level, because Greenlee just reached it.And AMC is digging this. They think this is what viewers want to see, and they're living on Mars.
ITA with all of you..GL needs to go.. .Hell, they should have never brought her back...There are characters on soaps that have longivity.... Tad, Erica, Adam, Brook, Zach, Kendall, Jesse, Angie.... those are the characters you tune into see and want to watch them through the years..Ryass, GL, Annie not so much...I don't see any difference in this GL and the GL that has been on AMC for years...I tuned in this week to see Thorsten & Alicia, to see my precious Zendall.....Unfortunately, it was all about the banshee...TPTB want Kenlee, but the fans do not.. Kendall has grown beyond that vile gnat...GL told Erica, "There are no Accidents"... Well, I guess then she intentionally kidnapped Spike, ran him off the road, tried to kill both Spike & Ian.......and that witch should rot in jail for it...Kenlee should have ended the second GL took SPike.....but they continue to have Kendall play her lapdog...Zach's so-called bond with GL is as unrealistic & unbelievable as Kendall calling GL her sister...Gator, I'm in the group that believes there is a chance that TK will return...but only if TPTB grow a brain and get him back....The thing is, if they bring Zendall back in the form of Thorsten & Alicia, they better freaking end this Kenlee, Zach-GL, Kendall-Ryass, Zendall-Ryass friendship crap..I hated that they didn't allow Kendall to call Ryass & Erica out on thier disgusting affair....I hated that they didn't allowed Kendall & Zach to call Ryass out on his contining attacks on them...stealing the casino..I hated that zach & Kendall cared a damn thing about GL's feelings......I hope when Zendall come back, that they come back stronger, ready to fight back, ready to kick the trash out of their lives......Soaps are supposed to have great friendships, enemies, rivalrys that rock..Zendall with Rylee are none of the above..They shouldn't be friends... shouldn't have to prop the waste..I'd love them to come back and take on Rylee as a united front... Zach taking back his casino & Cambias from the town idiot....with Kendall supporting him & standing by Zach's side.. Letting Ryass know that he is only Spike's bio-dad and nothing more... Boundaries need to be put in place....... I would love to see Kendall rid herself of Fusion and GL once & for all... Start her own company in direct competition with Fusion and wipe the floor with GL....with Zach standing by her side, supporting her...Team Slater rocks....but Team Slater being Rylee's lap dogs do not..GL needs to go.... Ryass needs to go...Annie needs to go...... they are all characters whos time has come & gone....and are not needed anymore.....Once again, TPTB went way to far, but for me they went to far the minute Ryass started abusing Kendall, and the minute GL kidnapped SPike..... no coming back from that...Hell, even GL fans are turning on her now......and that should tell TPTB it's time for GL to go....and take Ryass & Annie with her..
I don't know if TK will come back...but who could blame him if he didn't want to. This whole storyline has just been total crap. And TK probably doesn't want to return to prolong it....and I don't blame him at all for that.I did watch this week, just to see what would go down between Greenee and Kendall...and of course AMC disappointed me. I am one of the few people that originally liked Greenlee....but this week she lost me. This whole entitlement that she has is just too much. I know Greenlee has always been a spoiled brat, with large entitlement issues...but this whole idea of Kendall running her down on purpose was just stupid and unbelievable. Like I said before, Kendall should have called her out more about Greenlee's part in Spike's accident. I know she touched on it, but she should have gone in for the kill.AMC of course turned Kendall into this whiny, apologetic mess....and it was total crap in my opinion. She should have ripped Greenlee to shreds. I also didn't like the idea of Zach being jealous of that loser Ryan. Kendall & Zach have been off the seen for what, 4 or 5 months? The last we saw of them Zach was happy to have his family back and they seemed like they were in love...Now, AMC has Zach saying this horrible crap about how he doesn't feel the same about Kendall. I didn't like that at all....I can get over the use of Annie, but they need to make her a straight out "crazy type" like Patty on Y&R, or Allison Perkins on OLTL....quit trying to humanize her...the audience will never buy into it.In order to save what's left of AMC, they need to turn attention to vets....Angie, Jessie, Tad & Erica...and bring back a few vets.....mainly Dixie, but there are more that need to return. By doing this, they can put Ryan, Greenlee & Annie where they belong right now...on the backburner.
I originally like Greenlee also. And I originally rooted for her and Ryan when they first hooked up. But after getting a taste of her with Aiden, I vomit when I see those two together because they seem toxic together to me. Unlike most toxic couples in soap history, there doesn't seem to be character growth, there is regression, and I just don't like it. Oh and unlike other toxic couples in history who had staying power, they are NOT entertaining (think Monica and Alan, now there was a toxic couple who truly loved each other, were entertaining, and all of their storylines came from character. Same with Babe and JR) I am sick of Ryan and Greenlee. Together and apart and I just wished that they could be backburnered and then given character makeovers so that I could start liking them again.
Personally, I don't think backburning Rylee is going to help...Neither contribute anything to the show, except to suck the life out of it...Neither have shown any growth whatsoever...Too many characters, couples damaged or destoryed to fit them in.....Ryass should have stayed gone when he left the first time...... Making him Spike's bio-dad didn't help either... It made no damn sense because Madden would never have used Ryass sperm...not with the s/l they were telling..Also, Kendall should hate him.... She should be disgusted by him... Once he threw her away for the banshee, treated her like dirt under his shoes, used & abused her, it was time to move on....They are co-parents of Spike, but they don't have to be friends... It would be better if Kendall cut ties with him and cut him out of her life.... for good.Kenlee is a toxic joke... Why TPTB feel the need to keep Kendall tied to the banshee or her other abuser is something I never understood...Once you take a character to far, there is no going back... Ryass abusing women ruined him forever... GL kidnapping Spike & almost killing both Kendall's kids did her in.....but someone keeps this ish going...Ryass/GL, together or apart are just not interesting.... They're just a reason to tune out or FF....I would love to see Zen return.....TK/AM..... and show that both have grown, not only closer, but grown as people.....I would love for KEndall to realize that both her abusers are toxic to her.... Both use & abuse her at their whim.... I would love her to kick them out of her life & move on....I would love Zach & Kendall to come back on a mission, taking back what was theres, side by side, with no friends Jangie....Sadly, TPTB will never allow either character to be free of the dead weight known as Rylee, because Rylee needs to be proppped....and sadly that job falls on Zen all the time...
See, I agree with you...I think that a long backburning time could help with these characters, and then when the focus is back on them, give them a huge character makeover. Well, I say that for Greenlee, I'm not sure about Ryan....I honestly can't stand the sight of him.I would like to see Kendall come back and have her and Erica team up to bring Enchantment back to life. I think Kendall should cut her Fusion ties and team up with her mom to take Greenlee down. I don't know why TPTB won't use the same formula that Y&R does with their two feuding cosmetic companies....it makes the show much more interesting. Enchantment vs Fusion....that would be fun to watch.However, having Kendall constantly being run over by Ryan & Greenlee does not sit well with the fans. I guess they haven't quite figured out that Kendall has a HUGE fan following. And having her be constant road kill for Greenlee & Ryan doesn't make the fans happy...and it won't make the fans cheer fro Ryan or Greenlee.Kendall needs a much needed makeover too.....Give her damn backbone back!!! She needs to get some fire back and start working on destroying Ryan & Greenlee. Ryan for what he did to her marriage....and Greenlee for what she did to her son & Kendall's reputation. She spends way too much time crying and begging for forgiveness. They have totally deconstructed this character....and made her too weak and vulnerable.In order to build a great rivalry between Greenlee & Kendall....which is what I gather they are trying to do...You have to make both characters equal in strength...that's what makes it interesting to watch. An example of that would be...Brooke & Erica....Adam & Palmer....Edmund & Dimitri ( in their early years they were at odds).....but my point being both characters must be equally strong, and bring something to the table. You can't do that if Kendall is always crying and begging for forgiveness, while Greenlee gets away with murder and never apologizes or pays for any of her wrong doings.

I don't blame Greenlee or Rebecca Budig for this one.....this is all in the hands of Lorraine Broderick. She's doing a bigger hack job than Pratt. I don't know what her thinking behind this is....Try to make the fans hate her anymore than they already do? This is not only character assasination, but this is killing the show that we all once loved.AMC keeps digging itself deeper and deeper in a hole....and they will not soon be able to get themselves out. There isn't one character, with the exception of Angie, that I care for anymore. I realize that Zach isn't coming back...but to have Kendall even contemplate leaving her husband, just so she can go work things out with Greenlee...How stupid is that?This joke of a trial with David....Did you notice how the prosecution didn't even cross-exam Greenlee. That's how bad the writing is.See how fast they are pushing this Amanda/stalker story? That story is sure to be a horrible mess.Not to mention, we're all suppose to take on Damon as Tad's son. Hello!!! Tad was presumed dead and living as Ted Orsini 18 years ago!! So, Damon couldn't be his son.I'm not even buying this rushed love story that Adam & Brooke supposedly have. It came on way too fast, and has been completely unbelievable.I do have to say, that I was happy when Ryan finally gave up on Greenlee....However, this action was too little too late. There is no redemption left for him or Greenlee. Here's my question: Why bring a character back to life, and do your damndest to make her the most hated character on soaps, but try to sell to the audience that she's this great leading lady? Sorry, it doesn't work like that. And I have been a fan of Greenlee for some time now...but today was just too damn much. She has gone too far....and so have the writers. You guys need help!! Hire some of your fans to come in and fix the mess that you've made, because AMC is headed down a slippery slope and I see nothing but heartache in its future.