Oh something will be added alright. As soon as they get busted for sitting on that little fact about Jessica's baby really being Starr's baby. They used to be my favorite couple too until they started acting ridiculous with the baby situation.

Quote:I'm so happy my favorite couple got married today. I hope a little something more will be added later down the road to this marriage. Like Jared Banks Jr. It's time for Natalie to have her own baby. I love that they are married. I am a tad disappointed though that they did not air much of their wedding. You know they were too busy airing Rex and Gigi's nauseating fantasy wedding, because Rex and Gigi have not helped destroy the ratings enough.I am happy that they are married, they really are the best couple on this show for me, and I hope the get a better storyline soon.

I am so happy that they are married, even though I would have loved more airtime for their elopement, I did enjoy the montage. I would love to see a "real" wedding in the future for these two, because I want to see all the family be there for these two.

Quote:I am so happy that they are married, even though I would have loved more airtime for their elopement, I did enjoy the montage. I would love to see a "real" wedding in the future for these two, because I want to see all the family be there for these two. I agree, I am glad that they are married, but I have to say that I am very disappointed that TPTB could not even be bothered to actually air their wedding. It's a major insult to their fans imo. It was never clearer to me that TPTB could care less about what we think.

I hope they don't have a happy time. They keep saying it will hurt Jessica. What about Starr? Natalie forgets that Starr is her cousin. We all know that Natalie hates Todd, but does she hate him that much to destroy her own cousin? This is the same thinking they had when they kept it a secret that David was a Buchannon. They though they were doing it for the better good. Not thinking about the other people they would hurt in the process. Sorry, but Jared and Natalie are going to get what is coming to them over and over again.

The whole story is silly. Why did they go looking for the truth if they weren't going to do anything with it? Silly. What did they think they were going to uncover? I am so done with both of them. Wish they would leave town instead of Marcie and Michael. They go live happily ever after and be done with it. What storyline are they going to have after this?

Quote:I hope they don't have a happy time. They keep saying it will hurt Jessica. What about Starr? Natalie forgets that Starr is her cousin. We all know that Natalie hates Todd, but does she hate him that much to destroy her own cousin? This is the same thinking they had when they kept it a secret that David was a Buchannon. They though they were doing it for the better good. Not thinking about the other people they would hurt in the process. Sorry, but Jared and Natalie are going to get what is coming to them over and over again. totally agree with every single word

Quote:The whole story is silly. Why did they go looking for the truth if they weren't going to do anything with it? Silly. What did they think they were going to uncover? I am so done with both of them. Wish they would leave town instead of Marcie and Michael. They go live happily ever after and be done with it. What storyline are they going to have after this? totally agree with every single word

Natalie is nauseating...talk about self-righteous. Did she learn nothing from her last bout with lies??

Quote:Quote:The whole story is silly. Why did they go looking for the truth if they weren't going to do anything with it? Silly. What did they think they were going to uncover? I am so done with both of them. Wish they would leave town instead of Marcie and Michael. They go live happily ever after and be done with it. What storyline are they going to have after this? totally agree with every single word I completely disagree but that is just my opinion. Natalie Jared have done nothing even remotely unredeemable, especially when we have some ACTUAL criminals on this show. Yeah they told lies and kept secrets, but if I remember correctly that is the name of the game. You don't have characters making mistakes that have consequences, then you don't actually have a show to watch. If everyone was flawless and perfect the show would be boring. Plus it is not as if Natalie said screw Starr who cares, she has felt guilty about what she did, but at the end of the day characters have to screw up in order to have some actual story to watch.I personally love both Natalie and Jared, jmo.

Quote:Natalie is nauseating...talk about self-righteous. Did she learn nothing from her last bout with lies?? No and that is what gets me. Does she ever learn from her past mistakes. The whole family was mad at her and she finally got everyone back and loving her and now this. It is so silly. Make no sense.

Quote:Quote:Natalie is nauseating...talk about self-righteous. Did she learn nothing from her last bout with lies??

No and that is what gets me. Does she ever learn from her past mistakes. The whole family was mad at her and she finally got everyone back and loving her and now this. It is so silly. Make no sense.

For me personally Natalie gets a bit of a break because it's not like she did it just to play God or anything, she had good intentions. She wanted to protect her clearly nutty sister and I can't fault her for that even though what she did was wrong.

Plus to me keeping a secret is not nearly as bad as planning to steal the baby like Todd did or ACTUALLY stealing the baby like Bess and Dr. Joplin did. What Natalie did was wrong, but she did not do it just for kicks, she was very torn about it. And for me characters should make mistakes because that's what makes the show for me. I am ok with characters making the mistakes as long as I can understand their point of view and why they did it. The only person I felt bad for in the baby drama was Starr, because she truly wanted that baby and deserved to know that Hope is alive.

Quote:Quote:Quote:Natalie is nauseating...talk about self-righteous. Did she learn nothing from her last bout with lies?? No and that is what gets me. Does she ever learn from her past mistakes. The whole family was mad at her and she finally got everyone back and loving her and now this. It is so silly. Make no sense. For me personally Natalie gets a bit of a break because it's not like she did it just to play God or anything, she had good intentions. She wanted to protect her clearly nutty sister and I can't fault her for that even though what she did was wrong.Plus to me keeping a secret is not nearly as bad as planning to steal the baby like Todd did or ACTUALLY stealing the baby like Bess and Dr. Joplin did. What Natalie did was wrong, but she did not do it just for kicks, she was very torn about it. And for me characters should make mistakes because that's what makes the show for me. I am ok with characters making the mistakes as long as I can understand their point of view and why they did it. The only person I felt bad for in the baby drama was Starr, because she truly wanted that baby and deserved to know that Hope is alive. I agree with you. Natalie and Jared did not go out there looking to do this on purpose. It just fell on them and they both took it from there with the thought that what they did they did it for Jessica. Since Starr was going to give her child away. As we all saw, they weren't happy about what they had to do. I love Jarlie. I still support them 100%.

I am very much glad that they are married too but I agree with those that were upset with how it aired, it was an insult for sure. That being said I agree that I too love Jared and Natalie and support them 100%

Quote: "Sorry, but Jared and Natalie are going to get what is coming to them over and over again."We can only hope... but I figure they will get out of it, like they did in the 'Jared Buchanan' lies that led to Nash's death.

Ditto Princess. They really screwed things up didn't they. If they had told the truth in the beginning we wouldn't have to deal with this whole baby kidnapping storyline we bout to suffer through. jmo

I agree...I have never really liked Natty...her voice is like tires screeching on pavement. I understand why the story was written the way it was....but would a (normal) woman really watch another woman suffer through the loss of her baby when she knew the baby was really alive?? And that woman being a relative? Would the same sane woman do that to her sister, instead of letting her heal, no matter how diffucult it might be??Dramatic license aside...it was a poor direction for the story, instead of being creative. HOWEVER...I am willing to sit through it to watch the acting. THAT will be good.

Quote:I agree...I have never really liked Natty...her voice is like tires screeching on pavement. I understand why the story was written the way it was....but would a (normal) woman really watch another woman suffer through the loss of her baby when she knew the baby was really alive?? And that woman being a relative? Would the same sane woman do that to her sister, instead of letting her heal, no matter how diffucult it might be??Dramatic license aside...it was a poor direction for the story, instead of being creative. HOWEVER...I am willing to sit through it to watch the acting. THAT will be good. I am with you. To let a person bond with a child that isn't hers and the chance that somehow that someone wouldn't find out is insane. Jessica and the baby bonded and that means a lot. I am tired of this kind of storyline, it is what happened with Marcie all over again. Didn't Marcie kidnap the baby and run away to Texas? The same story just different players. Well the baby is related to Todd so not too many different players. Jessica is the only new one to this story.

I have a question. If Jared and Natalie is everyone's favorite couple on the show, then why is it everyweek in my SOD that the favorite couple is always Natalie and John. Natalie and John have been over for so long, but yet each week they garner the most votes. Seems to me that the Jared and Natalie fans are in the minority. We all know there is a reason why. They are boring, and they always put themselves above family.1. Jared asked Charlie to keep it quiet that he is father.2. Jared and Natalie kept quiet about the fact that Jared was not Asa's son.3. Let Nash and Jessica lose the vineyard because they didn't want their secret to get out.4. Jared and Natalie keeping the fact that Chloe isn't Jessica's baby.5. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby, Natalie's cousin, that her baby was alive.6. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby is alive from Marcie. Who is suppose to be a good friend of hers.What a nice couple there.

Yep, that just about sums it all up. Nuff said

Quote:I have a question. If Jared and Natalie is everyone's favorite couple on the show, then why is it everyweek in my SOD that the favorite couple is always Natalie and John. Natalie and John have been over for so long, but yet each week they garner the most votes. Seems to me that the Jared and Natalie fans are in the minority. We all know there is a reason why. They are boring, and they always put themselves above family.1. Jared asked Charlie to keep it quiet that he is father.2. Jared and Natalie kept quiet about the fact that Jared was not Asa's son.3. Let Nash and Jessica lose the vineyard because they didn't want their secret to get out.4. Jared and Natalie keeping the fact that Chloe isn't Jessica's baby.5. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby, Natalie's cousin, that her baby was alive.6. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby is alive from Marcie. Who is suppose to be a good friend of hers.What a nice couple there. Seriously, is THIS the arguement you are going to use? No Jolie fan should EVER speak about polls because your Jolie buddies have been EXTREMELY vocal especially on boards like "Rodis" about how they robo vote and cheat on the polls because they like to "win." They bought voting software and taught the board members how to use it just so they can get Jolie on those polls and keep them there. Jolie fans practically invented robo-voting so they really should never use those polls as an excuse for anything.You like who you like and we like who we like. Personally I think Jared and Natalie had more chemistry standing in the background than John and Natalie did in 4 years, but that is my opinion.

Quoting soapgirl: "They are boring, and they always put themselves above family.1. Jared asked Charlie to keep it quiet that he is father.2. Jared and Natalie kept quiet about the fact that Jared was not Asa's son.3. Let Nash and Jessica lose the vineyard because they didn't want their secret to get out.4. Jared and Natalie keeping the fact that Chloe isn't Jessica's baby.5. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby, Natalie's cousin, that her baby was alive.6. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby is alive from Marcie. Who is suppose to be a good friend of hers.What a nice couple there."It is just my opinion, but... I couldn't agree more. Our opinions aren't likely to be taken well in this thread. Take care.

Quote: Quote:I have a question. If Jared and Natalie is everyone's favorite couple on the show, then why is it everyweek in my SOD that the favorite couple is always Natalie and John. Natalie and John have been over for so long, but yet each week they garner the most votes. Seems to me that the Jared and Natalie fans are in the minority. We all know there is a reason why. They are boring, and they always put themselves above family.

1. Jared asked Charlie to keep it quiet that he is father.
2. Jared and Natalie kept quiet about the fact that Jared was not Asa's son.
3. Let Nash and Jessica lose the vineyard because they didn't want their secret to get out.
4. Jared and Natalie keeping the fact that Chloe isn't Jessica's baby.
5. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby, Natalie's cousin, that her baby was alive.
6. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby is alive from Marcie. Who is suppose to be a good friend of hers.

What a nice couple there.

Seriously, is THIS the arguement you are going to use? No Jolie fan should EVER speak about polls because your Jolie buddies have been EXTREMELY vocal especially on boards like "Rodis" about how they robo vote and cheat on the polls because they like to "win." They bought voting software and taught the board members how to use it just so they can get Jolie on those polls and keep them there. Jolie fans practically invented robo-voting so they really should never use those polls as an excuse for anything.

You like who you like and we like who we like. Personally I think Jared and Natalie had more chemistry standing in the background than John and Natalie did in 4 years, but that is my opinion.

I completely agree. The very idea that John and Natalie fans would start trying to claim validity in polls they have bragged for years about fixing is really laughable. Especially since polls clearly don't mean anything to TPTB otherwise the John and Natalie fans would have gotten their happy ending.

Personally I love Natalie and Jared and think that even with the shows focus on others for this year so far they are still the sexiest and one of the most interesting couples on the show. I just think they need a story that doesn't involve their guilt over Nash. The entire reason Jared and Natalie kept quiet about Chloe (though I firmly believe the story was rewritten so Jess and Nat fighting would not outshine the lameness that is Stacy and Gigi) was because they couldn't destroy Jessica again.

Now that the story is behind them however and the family doesn't hate them I think the time of them being governed by guilt is over and they can get back to the sexy without the guilt.

Personally I hope they get involved with the Rex mess b/c a) they feel no guilt toward anyone in that story, b) it would allow them to get back to the more sneaky aspects, and c) since it look like Rex's story will be the next big one...it will hopefully get them more airtime.

That and along the way Nat can get pregnant. I've been her fan since the beginning and I have always wanted to see ber become a mother. Now is the first time there seems to be a real shot of that.

I am not a John and Natalie fan. I am not a Natalie and Jared fan. That was the whole point of my post. That people are rooting for a couple who are selfish and could lie to family is not what makes a couple great. Justify to me why it is ok to keep quiet about a baby switch so the sister won't get hurt. I believe that Natalie even said that Starr was going to let Marcie adopt Hope, so she doesn't even to know that her baby is alive. How can you justify lying to your own cousin? That is what makes this couple so rotten. That they know what is best for everyone. Why not concentrate on yourselves then worrying about everyone else. I might start to like the couple.

Quote:I am not a John and Natalie fan. I am not a Natalie and Jared fan. That was the whole point of my post. That people are rooting for a couple who are selfish and could lie to family is not what makes a couple great. Justify to me why it is ok to keep quiet about a baby switch so the sister won't get hurt. I believe that Natalie even said that Starr was going to let Marcie adopt Hope, so she doesn't even to know that her baby is alive. How can you justify lying to your own cousin? That is what makes this couple so rotten. That they know what is best for everyone. Why not concentrate on yourselves then worrying about everyone else. I might start to like the couple. Their whole relationship has been based on one lie after the other. If the writers want people to like them they are going to have to stop all the lying. I guess Natalie got over being angry at Jess long enough to lie to her. I am not a fan of them but if they want fans write better story lines for them.

Quote:I am not a John and Natalie fan. I am not a Natalie and Jared fan. That was the whole point of my post. That people are rooting for a couple who are selfish and could lie to family is not what makes a couple great. Justify to me why it is ok to keep quiet about a baby switch so the sister won't get hurt. I believe that Natalie even said that Starr was going to let Marcie adopt Hope, so she doesn't even to know that her baby is alive. How can you justify lying to your own cousin? That is what makes this couple so rotten. That they know what is best for everyone. Why not concentrate on yourselves then worrying about everyone else. I might start to like the couple. Trust me when I say that fans of the couple are not happy with the way the story turned out and want a story for them that doesn't involve them keeping a secret from the family. I for one think it would have made a much more interesting story if Nat had come forward and the family thought she did it in part to get back at her sister. But for whatever reason the story was actually all about showing that Nat had forgiven Jess to such a point that all she wanted was for her sister to be happy and couldn't bring herself to be the one to destroy Jess' life again. Could it have been done better and more intellegently? Is the sky blue? Fans of the couple have been saying that yes their actions are cowardly but the one thing that their repeative convos showed was that they were never really okay with what they did or they would have moved past it. Instead it consumed their lives and even ended up stealing a day that should have been all about them. Their previous secret destroyed Jessica, when faced with possibly losing her sister for good to the voices in her head I get why Natalie couldn't bring herself to do it. For better or worse the character will take burdens on to herself rather than cause those she loves pain. Jared was in a similar place having been the one to actually have his hands on Nash. I don't demand that my favorite be in the right the whole time or do the right thing. But in this instance when they were between a rock and a hard place where the right thing would basically destroy the one person neither wanted to hurt again and they couldn't bring themselves to do it. I can say they were wrong and still empathize that they saw no real right choice. Also they took no steps to keep the lie going...there were a million ways they could have made this worse by affirmatively trying to keep Chloe as Jess' (like faking a birth certificate - not that it was needed but just showing Rex did more than just keep quiet with Tommy) but when the truth seemed set to come out they came forward.And none of that changes the way they love each other. Each is madly and deeply in love with everything about the other, flaws and all. There is so little romance on the show these days and so much sadness that generally I'm supportive of any display of positive love and emotion. I think they just need a story that lets them be a couple in love and not weighed down by guilt.

Quote:Quoting soapgirl: "They are boring, and they always put themselves above family.1. Jared asked Charlie to keep it quiet that he is father.2. Jared and Natalie kept quiet about the fact that Jared was not Asa's son.3. Let Nash and Jessica lose the vineyard because they didn't want their secret to get out.4. Jared and Natalie keeping the fact that Chloe isn't Jessica's baby.5. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby, Natalie's cousin, that her baby was alive.6. Keeping the secret that Starr's baby is alive from Marcie. Who is suppose to be a good friend of hers.What a nice couple there."It is just my opinion, but... I couldn't agree more. Our opinions aren't likely to be taken well in this thread. Take care. Jessica and Nash lost the Vineyard because of Nash's stupidity. Everyone, including Jessica, warned him about getting involved with the shady dude. Honestly, them not telling Starr the truth is wrong, but as I could care less about Starr, it doesn't bug me. As for lying to Jessica, none of this would have happened if Jessica wouldn't have let Tess out in the first place, just because she couldn't come to terms wiht Nash's death (something that even Jessica has admitted wasn't their fault). As for Marcie, am I really suppose to feel bad about someone doing the same thing she did? I love Jared and Natalie and I hoe they can finally get their own storyline, away from unstable Jessica. I am tired of them worrying about her 24/7. I hope they can now concentrate on their own lives.

Quote:Quote:I am not a John and Natalie fan. I am not a Natalie and Jared fan. That was the whole point of my post. That people are rooting for a couple who are selfish and could lie to family is not what makes a couple great. Justify to me why it is ok to keep quiet about a baby switch so the sister won't get hurt. I believe that Natalie even said that Starr was going to let Marcie adopt Hope, so she doesn't even to know that her baby is alive. How can you justify lying to your own cousin? That is what makes this couple so rotten. That they know what is best for everyone. Why not concentrate on yourselves then worrying about everyone else. I might start to like the couple. Their whole relationship has been based on one lie after the other. If the writers want people to like them they are going to have to stop all the lying. I guess Natalie got over being angry at Jess long enough to lie to her. I am not a fan of them but if they want fans write better story lines for them. So you deem to know what the entire viewing audience likes and doesn't like? And what is this "all the lying" stuff. Natalie knew about the Jared secret for about 2 months. They planned on coming clean, but Dorian beat them to it. They knew about the baby secret about the same amount of time. Natalie didn't keep either secret for personal gain. Just about everyone else in town has done far worse.

Quote:Quote:I am not a John and Natalie fan. I am not a Natalie and Jared fan. That was the whole point of my post. That people are rooting for a couple who are selfish and could lie to family is not what makes a couple great. Justify to me why it is ok to keep quiet about a baby switch so the sister won't get hurt. I believe that Natalie even said that Starr was going to let Marcie adopt Hope, so she doesn't even to know that her baby is alive. How can you justify lying to your own cousin? That is what makes this couple so rotten. That they know what is best for everyone. Why not concentrate on yourselves then worrying about everyone else. I might start to like the couple. Their whole relationship has been based on one lie after the other. If the writers want people to like them they are going to have to stop all the lying. I guess Natalie got over being angry at Jess long enough to lie to her. I am not a fan of them but if they want fans write better story lines for them. So you deem to know what the entire viewing audience likes and doesn't like? And what is this "all the lying" stuff. Natalie knew about the Jared secret for about 2 months. They planned on coming clean, but Dorian beat them to it. They knew about the baby secret about the same amount of time. Natalie didn't keep either secret for personal gain. Just about everyone else in town has done far worse. Great post. I couldn't have said better myself. The gall...as if John was so perfect when he was with Natalie. They forget the way this man treated Natalie. How she had to comply to his rule or else. Jared and Natalie all the way!