I am so with you I would sake your hands if I was there. Stephanie shouldn't ever throw stones because she is one messed up lady. What she needs to do is get a life and take care of her man so he doesn't have to look elsewhere for it.

I know she is upset about Phoebe but she has more blame than anyone. She knew what Rick was up to. Lets see if im right on how the story will go. She tells Ridge him and Brooke brake up he goes back to Taylor and if he does stay with Brooke Stephanie will keep trying to brake them up. I hope the show goes in a different direction by having Brooke and Ridge stay together. Let Taylor go off somewhere and get her life together and move on. Eric goes to Jackie for comfort. Stephanie sees a good shrink. Throne of hell ship him off to forester international he has no use on the show. Bring Marcus back Steffi needs him. Let Nick and Katie go off on a around the world on his boat leave Jack with Ridge and Brooke. Get a nice guy for Bridget. Have Rick work with his father and Ridge and get over his mad about Ridge.

Sounds good to me.

I am so in agreement with you! What is amazing is that Stephanie's logic is so twisted that she is able to blame Brooke for Phoebe's death yet it doesn't occur to her to chastise Taylor for getting involved with her daughter's ex-boyfriend. According to the Forresters Rick is totally to blame for this although Taylor is much older and a therapist. I almost got sick when Taylor acted surprised that Phoebe was staying away because she was upset by Taylor's involvement with Rick. Duh! I don't think anyone was at fault for the accident although beating on someone who is driving is not a wise choice. Phoebe should have stayed home and beat on Taylor instead but, as usual, St. Taylor is found blameless. As far as Stephanie is concerned, the sooner Eric finds out the truth and dumps her the better-I can't believe he'd be stupid enough to reconcile with her, regardless of Donna's fidelity. Steph is an evil snake and she'll never change. (I think I just insulted snakes.) Like you, though, I would rather see Eric with Jackie than Donna.

Don't get me wrong I don't like Donna and Eric together but she is better than Stephanie. I would much rather see him with Jackie. Or if they do brake up Ridge and Brooke have Eric and Brooke get back together and help Rick get through this. I feel sorry for Rick out of everyone on the show he is the only one to take blame for what happened. He told Brooke this is on me no one else. You never hear Stephanie or Taylor say that. He's done some crummy things but he didn't through someone off a balconey or fake a heart attack and never once has Stephanie said i'm sorry or it's my fault. Stephanie always says to Brooke that she has no morals is Stephanie kidding me what kind of morals does she have. I am coming really close to never watching B&B again. I stopped for awhile through the whole Nick,Bridget, Katie thing. Also Pam is coming back Why?

Ever see the scene in "Airplane" were everybody lines up to knock some sense into a terrified passenger, with everything from crowbars to ball bats? Some days I bet there would be line around Stephanie if we could get past the guards.But Stephanie, is always Stephanie, we know that is just who she is, but lately there've been several others I'd like to pop more than her, Thorne for one.

Like Stephanie said Brooke never taught her children morals but look at the morals Stephanie taught Thorne. Like mother like son.

You mean, look at all of Stephanie's kids. They are ALL morally corrupt, rude, offensive and just plain mean. I am pretty new to the soap and until yesterday, I lkied steph, but no more. I left GH to get away from just crappy storytelling, and now this one is wearing very thin on me. There just are not many likeable people here. I loved Steffy's scenes though, as the mother of twins, I know how deep that bond runs. Sometimes my girls even kind-of talk their own language. Anyway, I hope Eric tells steph to shut the hell up! That is his son, too, I think. And I loved that scene from Airplane, and I agree it fits the situation!

Just for future reference, #1 on Eric's list of survivalHe never ever tell's Steph to shut up, gives her nasty looks, threatens, or does leave, but continue's to enable her behavior by making statements like, you know how she is, or she is your Mother & loves you no matter what her shortcomings are, etc. He has even re-married Stephanie when Felicia was on the terminal list, just to make her happy.It's Forrester's forever, they might fight amongst themselves, but heaven help any outsider who goes after one of them, the rest suit up for battle, even if their family member has done a grievious wrong in some way. They're like the evit, dysfunctional version of the Walton's or something. The absolute best "Stephanie" moment, IMHO, was when she showed up at Brooke's with a beautifully wrapped gift, inside was a gun, which Steph gave to Brooke so she could shoot herself & quit causing misery for others, mainly the Forrester clan.

Is Eric one of those men who cannot NOT have a woman in his life. Has he ever been alone?

ME!!!

Okay I just watched B & B today and again I want to slap her. Her telling Brooke Rick needs to pay that is the only way. Uh hello what about Pam she tried to kill 3 people and Stephanie didn't think she need to pay. What about Taylor she killed Darla she didn't think she needed to pay. Why Rick? He is truly sorry for what happened. He didn't kill Pheobe she did by taking the wheel. I hope Ridge sees what he has done to Brookes children by all the years of going back and forth and he take responibly and work with Rick to get through this. That would be a nice change of story. Oh why oh why couldn't it been stephanie to go theough that window in the car. By the way I hope Wric sticks up for his son and kicks stephanie to the curb. remember her sister just tried to kill him and he forgave her. Hoe soon stephanie forgets.

I agree that Steph shouldn't blame Brooke for this tragic loss, but let's not put a halo on Rick's head either. He was the one who decided to split up Brooke and Ridge. He was the one who manipulated Eric to name him Presidet of FC. He was the one who sabotaged Brooke's podcast about Rick taking over FC and Ridge's role in the company. He was the one who sent Marcus out of the country so he could spend time with Steffy. He was the one flirted with the Steffy. He was the one to kiss her. Come on, he went from Phoebe to Taylor to Steffy. Wouldn't you be upset that you had a relatioship who then went to have a relationship with your mother and came onto your sister. Would you take this lying down? I don't think so. Should Phoebe haven't gotten in the car, no. Should Rick had driven the car, no. He wasn't an innocent bystander either.

I had hoped, that once Stephanie got rid of her own demon's (her dealing with the abusive Father story) she might actually settle down some.What was I thinking?? Stephanie see's things only one way, her way.It's human to lash out when something like the accident occurs, but it's also human to realize you're reacting from grief & stop doing it, not turn it into a fulltime 24/7 mission of retaliation. Maybe sister Pam could share some of her med's with Stephanie & calm her down. Or maybe Eric could finally grow some manly parts & stand up to her cruel, vindictive behavior instead of just making excuse's for her. Not going to happen but it's close enough to the holidays I thought maybe a miracle might be in order.

Too bad Brooke missed when she fired the gun at Stephanie. I would like to see someone slap Steph silly one day; Steph certainly has no qualms about physically abusing others. The "morals" that Steph has taught her children are that they can do whatever they want and they are never to blame for anything. Wasn't there a scene in which Bridget told Steph to aplogize for faking her heart attack and Steph refused to? If Steph was so concerned about Phoebe why wasn't she on Taylor's case for her relationship with Rick? Steph just wants to hurt Rick because he is Brooke's son with Eric.

Rick is Eric's son, biologically Ridge isn't. So why on earth doesn't Eric, just for once, grow a spine & do what's right? Gag Stephanie, tell her infront of everyone ENOUGH!Let's see, Stephanie vs Brooke in the last year or so has consisted of Brooke being assualted because of Stephanie, rec'v a gun to do away with herself, a gift from Stephanie, being stalked at her wedding to Nick by Stephanie.....Now we're witness to Stephanie's influence on her kids, starting with the once amiable Thorne. If Steph wants to go after anyone, it should be Taylor for her insensitive/uncaring attitude by having a relationship with Rick. Did Taylor honestly think Phoebe would accept Rick as a step-father? That's what lead to this mess & caused Phoebe's out of control behavior that ended in this tragedy.

As far as I am concerned not only does Stephanie need a good slap, but needs to start paying for all the crap she has caused over the years. Time to dethrone Queen Stephanie.

I would love to really see her pay for Brooke's rape. Stephanie has gotten out of control the last several years and has paid for really none of it.

As far as I am concerned Stephanie has always been out of control and it is time for her to pay the piper for everything she has done to the Logan family in general, and all the other wrong doings.

I completely understand the whole "Mama Bear" thing, but she has gone overboard. Not to mention it's totally icky watching her sometimes. At least she's only concerned about their love lives and not their sex lives. ~Shudder~

I loved Eric today. He wiped the smug look right off Stephanies face. I loved how she tried to say Rick needed to pay and then she asks if Brooke is giving up marrying Ridge and Eric says no and then tells her about Throne. Hello remember she raised her children with morals. Then she says what are you saying Eric. Well Eric is saying your dumped BIT**. Finally one for Eric. By the way Stepanies other child with morals Felicia where was her loved child for christmas?

Crud! I missed it. I would have loved to have seen Steph get her's from Eric. I'm not sure where Felicia's baby (would it still be a baby), but he's never involved with any kind of family gathering.

Holy crap Eric was great today. The way he told off Stephanie was just great. She is always on Brooke about morals and here Eric was telling her you were pregnant by someone else married me and put me down our while life together was just great. I waited a long time for him to tell her off and it was worth it. I hope he stays this way. I'm not crazy about himand donna I wish he would get toghther with Jackie but anyone it better than Stepanie. Now if Ridge would just do the same the show would be perfect.

I was sitting in front of my TV going "Go Eric Go." It's about time that Steph is put in her place. I actually (even surprised myself) like Donna and Eric together. I just wish they'd get over the whole "Honey Bear" thing. I roll my eyes with that each time. LOL!

Okay by now everyone knows I cant stand Stephanie but the writing is getting worse. If she loved her son Ridge so much she would do as he asks and not keep trying to get back at Brooke through RIck. She says Rick needs to pay well lets see Stephanie hide her daughter from Eric for years did she pay NO, she faked a heart attack to keep ridge with taylor did she pay NO, she Hired a man to drug Brooke so she would pass out and not get home for her children did she pay NO, she had the same man rape Brooke did she pay again NO, She knew what her sister did to Donna did pam pay NO, Throne shot Ridge years ago did he pay NO, Taylor ran over Datrla and Killed her did she pay NO, do you see where I am going with this. If you are related to Stephanie or you are Stephanie you don't have to pay for the crimes you do but if you are related to Brooke you must pay it is the only moral thing to do. Oh and lets not forget when Stephanie throw Jackie over the banister she didn't pay for that. Stephanie is crazy and everyone needs to see that. Eric got his balls back a few weeks ago but when Rick and Stephanie came in with thier fight he lost them again when he didn't fire Stephanie. I thought Susan was retiring WHEN I wish it was now.

I totally agree with you. I may not like Donna but I rather her have Eric than that wack job Steph.

I can't Stephanie on any level she is sick twisted and I prefer Eric ended up with anyone than that ballingchain.

Say that Lucylu!!! I couldn't agree more. Actually I would like to slap everybody on that show

I like that one I would like to slap them all to , especially the Forrester brats and most of all Ric for all his wining like that gives him cause to act like a jerk.