And then he had the nerve to grab up Adam in his collar and demand that he act like his son? give me a brak! After the way that he's treated Adam, not that he hasn't deserved everything that he's gotten in spades, but this controlling attitude has got to got to stop! belive how Vic has treated his whole family, and then wants them to bend to his will or whim. And remember he told Sabrina the very same thing about him trusting her with his life what, 6 short months ago? I mean really. And Ash in the mans now? What a joke. I gues if you have Vic's child, and your name isn't Nikki, your good as gold. Sickening I tell you sickening

I agree with that. Victor is the only one that could treat you the way he wants. He wants no crap from any one but he dishes it out in spades. All I could say is he is a really S.O. B.

And as he gets older he gers worse. At one point Nikki brought out the best in him, but no more. And he and Ash oh that's just another hot mess waiting to happen

I agree with you guys, Victor knows how to lavish expensive trinkets on a woman as long as she is subserviant to him and doesn't cause waves. I'm thinking that this is not Ashly and the situation will come to a screeching halt the minute she speaks her mind and it doesn't coincide with what he thinks.

And I'm just waiting for that one tick tick tick

And we wait with baited breath

Cause at some point she's gonna tick Victor off. What got me is that Ash can bring up the Walter situation and he tells her, but was willing to take off Nikki's head for mearly mentioning it. Victor has issues, to say the least....

I personally think Victor suffers from multi-personality disorders.

That would explain him to a "T."

and let's not forget the anger management issues on top of that LOL

Thanks for the agreement and Merry Christmas to you good to have you on board.

Oh he needs that in spades that is for sure. And he really needs to get over the God complex he seems to suffer with as well.

Hey I'm at work what else am I gonna do. How'd you like the Christmas Episode? Oh and Micheal's stand alone will air tomorrow. Looks like it's gonna be realy good. I smell another Emmy for Christian.

Knowing Ash she is miss independant she won't stay golden for to long.

I saw a spoiler for it and ya it looks good.

Look forward to seeing it .

I am as well I like these kind of episodes they bring a reality to things that might have been if changes had not been made.

And how did Ash have everything all decorated and tree up? And she's moved her butt right into the Neman home like it's hers. Oh this won't last long at all. And now all of a sudden Ash is the love of his life? Give me a break!!!!

Tell me about it, I really don't think it will last very long either but let them enjoy while it does last.

That's for sure.

Merry Christmas to you as well. Glad to be on, but only for a little bit...got a Ham baking and a couple other things to get ready for X-Mas dinner

MMMM ham sounds good, we do turkey ourselves but it is all good anyway you slice it.

Yeah for all his faults Vctor does deserve a bit of happiness, even if he is a jerk....LOL Jerks need love too...

At least for a little while anyway.

Agreed

Me two or me three.

Hopefully Ashley will be out of there again like she was the first few times.As for the way Victor treated Adam, it was just as I would have expected him too. I think it's just what adam needed . Victor puts the same expectations on Nick but we wasn't such a wuss like Adam is. when thinks when bad for nick like this he went on and proved himself. adam really hasn't.if you think back Nick put victor in jail too. and when Nick went to jail, he did cry like a baby and offer up dirt on anyone in exchange for his daddys help..lol

yes but Nick was in jail behind Matt's shenanigans, not for writing a forgery against his dad. True Nick did put Vic in jail behind bad business practices. But Adam crying what a wuss oh and a joke at the same time. But neither of them should be crying in jail especially with all the visitors that they get. It's more like being on vacation than anything else.

This is so very true. But lets hope Adam gets the jist and turns things around. Mind you Victor will not forgive to readily as we all know he thinks he is always right.

He forgave Ash a long time ago about Abby being his biological daughter. Of course he trusts Ashley with the details on how Walter Paulin died. She has not connection to that whole storyline. He won't be forgiving Nikki anytime soon. He still blames her. Wouldn't you? If your spouse and unborn child were killed by an associate who is linked to your ex's spouse, would you be kind to them? I know I wouldn't. I would blame that person. How can they say that they didn't know? Then again Nikki we David without really getting to know him first. In the end, Ashley is the one true person not involvned in the whole David Chow mess/.

Everything you say is true, but let us not forget who really brought David into their lives. It start in Jack's campaign camp and if memory services Victor approved David's hiring as well as Jack. And David was very good at his con, he had almost everyone convinced he was a good guy. They did hide the fact well that he was a contract killer and he was the one who killed Ji Min. I really don't think Victor has to much room to be blaming Nikki for all of it he had a small hand in it as well. But again this is just my opinion.

And agian David was also behind Dru's gaslighting. Everyone forgets about that, and the fact that all of his wives, and let's not forget Skye turned up dead. Nikki was next in line. He tried to kill her as well, which is why Vic should be a little more forgiving to say the least.

That is also true. I think that Victor can't get over the fact that Nikki married David in the first place. He warned her about him, and she didn't listen because she was still reeling from the fact that he and Sabrina were going to get married. Those two love each other, but can't get past their stubborness.

And it's always a tug of wills between these two. Can't live with or witout each other, so what do they do make each other miserable as possible.