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I find this news extremely sad and stupid..

Seems the moron that runs ABC daytime is finally getting what he wants...> AMC is going to be cancelled soon...Mark my words..

AMC moving to LA is wrong on so many levels..

Which of our favs will not go....

TK, AM, SL, DC, MEK????? Will they uproot their families too stay with this sinking ship..

I'm saddened by this news for more than one reason..

This news just proves that Anne Sweeney refuses too stop Frons destruction...

AMC isn't long for daytime and the reason is Frons....

Bad Move..

Anyone have any feelings about this..

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So they are saying its for sure? Another soap site is saying they where told that its a rumor??? Love how these folks get the story straight...I'm sure it's true...one of the things that makes this sweet for AMC exec's (not us) is they believe this move will keep some from moving with them such as Susan L. (& a few others) who are attached to NY. I hope this is wrong. They say they want Susan out..if true, why?? She is the only one left of the originals. We / they need her. I hope that everybody goes to LA with the show, for us & to keep those exec's at AMC from getting there way. There is a rumor that one has to go, but why move AMC & waste $$$ if they will be canceled?

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It might bring a whole fresh restart for the soap. Not every actor on the show lives on the East Coast. This will benefit them as well. What is so wrong with them filiming in LA? It isn't like there is no other soap on the West Coast. You have GH, Days, Y&R, B&B. Those shows aren't bad. Plus OLTL needed a new studio. Why not wait to see what happens before you say the word cancellation. Because if you start that rumor then it might actually happen.

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I don't think I said they are canceling I asked questions...you know bouncing off each other trying to understand. I brought up rumors. I don't care if they move, I just hope they don't loose anyone by doing so. My understanding is that making soaps in LA is much cheaper than NY..if so then good. Your right great soaps are done in LA..GH is my fav.

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It doesn't matter how much cheaper it is to produce a soap in LA, or who goes or stays,it will still be written by Pratt and poorly at that.Unless they get rid of Pratt and Frons, nothing will change.Since they're moving and they will have better facilities, maybe LA has better writers to choose from too!

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It dnn't think it makes any difference where the show is taped in regards to the writers. Soap opera writers have always lived all over the country no matter where the show is broadcast.

I can't imagine this is good news in any way shape or form. 99% of the cast is NY/NJ/CT based and they will not be happy to uproot their lives..especially since the ratings have been just awful. How many people are going to uproot their lives for a sinking ship?

Even for those that choose to go, they will probably be living bi-coastal for at least a while and being forced to travel back and forth on a weekly basis. We are in the middle of a recession. How many people are going to be able to sell their homes, find new schools mid year for their children, get out of rental leases, and then find new homes etc. in less than 6 months? So the cast that was asked to take a pay cut to help save the show is now going to have greater costs to work.

Plus many of the cast are married or involved with people who have lives in NY...are these spouses supposed to give up their jobs as well or be forced to live with their families only part time?

And then there is the dedicated crew, many of whom have been working at ABC daytime for years and years. These people will all be out of a job in less than 6 months. What are they going to do? So much for loyalty.

And for what..for a show that will now be seen in high definition and have better sets? Until the find a writer who understands the medium of daytime, gets what the audience wants and writes storylines that make sense that pay attention to character and AMC history..and until ABC gets a real leader for ABC daytime that cares what the audience wants, the show has no hope anyway.

The is a sad day for AMC and for the long term fans.

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Kathy, ITA...AMC is done..... Frons has killed it and he's used his no-talent minions too do it..It doesn't matter where AMC is taped, NY, LA, Hong Kong, as long as Pratt is writing, Frons is dedicating, and JHC is standing around there is no hope for a show that I've loved since childhood..People say daytime is dying... That fans are tuning out and losing interest....and that is why..I disagree with that..Daytime isn't dying, it's being murdered by the likes of Brian Frons, Bob Guza, Charles Pratt....Fans love daytime... We want it too survive, but we will "NOT" just accept the garbage they try to shove down our throats...The writing for AMC has gone down hill for years, but Pratt is absolutely the worst HW in the history of daytime..Between Shock & Sensationalism replacing good writing...Cheap, Sleazy, pornish style scenes replacing romance...Trashing history of the show & it's charcters...Dissing fans, lying to fans, lying to the actors/actresses for their own personal agendas....No wonder daytime is dying...I get they have too cut their budgets, but why move across the country where some of their best probably won't go...What happens then..We get a PV that consisit of Never Will Be Liza????I feel really sad for the cast & crew, but I would love too know why Anne Sweeney continues to allow a sexist, ego- maniac like Brian Frons too kill all 3 shows.....Why she doesn't step in and stop this crap.... Why Pratt/Guza have jobs.... WTH is Frons still the head of ABC daytime is beyond me....wonder if he has something big on someone...

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I am just shocked they are doing this.. so I guess its looking like its going to be a "melrose place" in the afternoon then? sheesh.. what a sad sad state of affairs for this show.. what next? move one life to live to alaska?...what a friggen joke.. wont be long before these two icon of soaps are gone now! I soo friggen hate when people come on board and are soo damned disgruntled with life, that they make such stupid decisions and change the scope of things.....

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It is true that until they "clean house" that show isn't going to change much. Everyone behind the scene needs to go, except for lower staff such as the camera crew...this show needs someone like the late great Gloria Monty, to pull it out & fix this mess.

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I can't believe they are doing this, they will lose half the cast. Susan lives on Long Island, has all her life. Maybe she will commute but her husband has business here. Plus the rest of the actors and actress are married to people who have careers here. Why would they do this? It makes no sense. Good bye to all the really good actors. This is so silly. I truly don't get it. Maybe it is an April Fools joke a little late.

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The news continues to get worse and worse...Frons telling the cast that those on contract will either move to LA or they can opt out.....How are fans supposed to stay loyal to a show where TPTB show no respect or loyalty to the cast...The problem with AMC isn't location.... It's those running it... writing it... producing it....Until Brian Frons, Charles Pratt are gone, nothing will change, but this is one thing they can count on....Fans will stay loyal to the actors/actresses, but we have no loyalty to ABC daytime....None whatsoever...I feel like I'm losing an old friend...Disney should be ashamed to be associated with such low-class, low-lifes who treat their employees like this...But, I guess Disney is okay with this....and that speaks volumes...

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I agree with alot your saying but...Business have to move all the time. People have to uproot there familes & leave friends & family behind in order to continue to have a job. As far staying with the show I hope they all move & stay. I will hate it if I loose Erica, Tad & Adam...some I have no problem seeing go. One good reason for everyone to stick with the show is because I think they plan on people such as Susan to leave due to the move. I say no don't give them there way & stay. I'll say it again...we someone like Gloria Monty at AMC. Why is OLTL stay in NY?

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This is the beginning of the end. How many people really can or do relocate when businesses move? I mean that certainly isn't fair to the other person if they have a career and family here in NYC. I can't believe they are doing this. How awful for all involved. I can't see Susan going. NYC is the place to be anyway. It is sad. It won't affect me watching the show but I am sure they will lose some key players. Maybe AMC will be other soaps gains. Maybe they all will go to As The World Turns!

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I don't know what the deal is with Tennessee, but we have a lot of businesses that mover here from all over the country. Most of the employess uproot & move. With the times we're going through most can't afford not too re-locate. Again I hope they all can make the move & sadly Erica isn't on much anymore so maybe she can just go back & forth. I just read on another site all the plus's for this move for both AMC & OLTL (again don't understand it staying alone in the East coast) on paper it makes since. Let just hope for the best. After 30+years of watching its a habit I can't break.

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The thing is this...If Pratt is going to continue as HW, then why bother.....He's the biggest hack in the history of daytime..Name one character he hasn't damaged, destroyed, ruined???Name one story that's worked???Fix what isn't working first....and that is finding a writing team that works...and getting rid of the dead weight...JMHO

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Just read Thorston may not be going. He said he isn't a commuter Dad and can't imagine being 3,000 miles from his kids and his wife and life is in NYC. That was in today's New York Daily News.

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Quote from Susan Lucci about the moveLa Lucci was going to pass on the chance to keep on working, but she's saying it's a tough decision. "I don't know ... I love the show and I love playing Erica, but I'm just now going to have a couple of days off. It's a lot to think about"

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If she doesn't go then she just handed them what they wanted. They are betting on her not moving. What I don't ge tis that she isn't on much anymore anyway. She can go to the west coast 2 or 3 times a year tape some shows. It wouldn't be much different than i tis now. I hope TK comes back to Laneview...Zach can be Patricks cousin.

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Why should she have to move? I think it is silly. Why can't they work around her here? Her being on the show almost 40 years seems not to matter. Personally I wouldn't move either. My life, my family and friends are all here in NY I would never leave. But that it is me I certainly can understand her not wanting to go.

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The set will be in LA not NY. I don't think she should move, just a few times a year go out & do some taping. She's not on that much anymore anyway. They want her to go, I don't want her to give them what they want. She needs the Tony Geary contract.

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This is exasperating! And I do see OLTL going down the same road. ABC will want all three shows out west.Do you think Robin Strasser, Erika Slezak, Bob Woods or Ilene Kristen are gonna move??? These people are New Yorkers! (well, maybe not Bob). What a mess! I hope Lucci walks! I hope Minshew, Kaye, Knight, Morgan, and Williams all say 'screw it'. On the plus side, in LA, they can unkill Babe and bring Alexa Havens back, and bring Jamie back since the actors are LA based, now.

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No thanks to TK on OLTL, go there so he can be a Todd prop the way Marty has been since SH returned? *shudders*TK and AM leave I'm gone, they're the reason I watch AMC and buy the soap mags too

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I'll second that. If TK or AM goes, I won't watch.What should have been done was to get rid of Pratt after his disatrous lesbian storyline and bring someone in with talent who could repair the damage he has done to this show. Maybe then all of this would have been unnecessary. He will continue to write it in LA, so more expansive sets and production won't change the horrible writing. So Frons can put a mink coat and diamonds on it, but it still will be crap underneath. Not one wants to see Annie, she's overstayed her welcome, the horribly miscast Liza, Scott, nor Jake and Amanda after what they have done. They are focusing on all the wrong characters. This is what got Port Charles cancelled and GL.Without Lucci, Kaye and Minshew and Canary, AMC may as well be cancelled.It probably would have been the humane thing to do.

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Really no offense but someone should put a muzzle on Charles Pratt. It's not bad enough he "pi**ed off the "high school actors" on the show, stating that Jamie Luner was going to show everyone a thing or two in the acting department (ahem), blamed Eden Riegel for his mistakes with the faux lesbian storyline, and because of his "choices", Julie Carruthers had to lie for him and insult the audience by telling us we were not seeing what we were seeeing.

Now his latest insulting comment in this week's SOD Digest regarding Walt Willey (Jackson)... who likely won't be making the move:"The need for Jackson has been less and less...I don't think we'll be seeing a re-entrance of Jackson anytime soon."

Well thanks so much Charles Pratt for showing NO sensitivity about an actor who has devoted many years to AMC..working countless hours during fan/charity events in AMC's name, who actualy commuted from the southwest to fulfill his job obligations and who is part of a huge Jerica fan base. And now we simply don't need him?

Don't get me wrong..Jackson is not a favorite character of mine but I respect that he is a fan favorite of many. And for Pratt to just toss him off with a casual comment..and single him out by name as basically being "unimportant" to AMC, well it just ticked me off to no end.

There is no reason for Jackson anymore? You mean since there has been SO MUCH support for the Erica/ Ryan pairing (translation - hardly any). And there are SOO many new actors that Pratt is writing for in either new or returning characters.... that are so much better and more qualified to do the job than Walt WIlley? There is no NEED for Jackson??. Who cares if Walt Wiley is out of a job.

Really..Pratt is a walking nightmare. And this is the person who is going to have the responsibility to write "believable" storylines when the show moves from NY to LA, while everyone adjusts to the upcoming cast changes? Good luck with that one.

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"On the plus side, in LA, they can unkill Babe and bring Alexa Havens back, and bring Jamie back since the actors are LA based, now. " Great idea!!! Did the Night Rider show get canceled he was doing? I liked both Babe's but Alexa was my fav.

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Knight Rider was cancelled. I don't think it made it through a whole season. The way dead people keep showing up alive, it's 50/50 who David's mysterious patient in Gloucester could be. Either Greenlee or Babe. (Probably waiting to see who they can sign to come back??) Speaking of Gloucester, I wish they'd tell Tad how to pronounce it correctly. The "u" is silent. Like "lost - Gloster"

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I wasn't shocked at Pratt's comments on WW/Jackson...He's a classless, no-talent hack with no respect for anyone...Frons/Pratt are going too get exactly what they want...Cheaper, Sleazier Version of MP starring:Pratt's Turbo, the worst recast in daytime, JL as Never Will Be Liza....They will hire even more bimbos too showcase.... Smut will be the name of the game....and thse show will die off 6 months or less after the move...Sad.....

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Pratt has ruined this show. He ruined legacy characters to the point that they are unwatchable.Bianca and Zach were ruined with one of the most tasteless storylines to date, Zach fathering his sister in law's baby; Amanda and Jake with this horrible dead baby sl; Jessie's secret family; Adam is demoralized and dumbed down to showcase Annie, a character who has outstayed her welcome ; and Liza, who never should have been recasted is a unscrupulous unprincipled nonentity that is lusting after a married man that has shown in every way possible he deeply loves his wife. Pratt is focusing on the wrong characters, Annie, Ryan, Liza and they wonder why the ratings are in the basement.Pratt has been maligned and called out on certain storylines by fans and columinsts alike and has proven he is no writer. So why is he still writing? Esenten and Brown were fired for the same things he is doing? Why is he still here? WHY? WHY? WHY?

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When AMC moves out to LA, the decent thing for ABC to do is simply change the name of the show. It's already barely recognizable as the show we all once loved, and by the time Pratt restructures it on the other coast, it will be an entirely different animal. So, let's just put AMC out of its misery in December and let him call his new show whatever he pleases. (maybe APD for All Pratt's Disasters)

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You know it's a big statement to say one writer has ruined the show..and we have all complained about writers before. But I would have to agree with you here. Pratt has absolutely RUINED this show for me.

I can barely watch my favorite characters..the storylines are so warped... there are so many unappealing actors/characters in major roles... so many long term characters have been trashed in order to move forward storylines that make no sense... and the lack of attention to detail and continuity is appalling.

I find myself embarrassed for the actors.

I understand there are decisions to be made based on economics..and I may not like a whole lot of them...but if the writing continues to be awful, the changes won't make a lick of a difference for me because I can't think of one storyline in the year that Pratt has been with AMC that has been successful or has captured my interest and I won't be watching, no matter who moves to LA or not.

There is just so much a viewer can be expected to take and still hang in there.

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ITA Kathy. Writing makes a soap and this soap is drowning because the writing is so bad not the actors. The best actors in the world couldn't do anything with the material they're given. I don't care where they move nothing will change in Charles Pratt is still writing this show and AMC should be off the air in about six months.

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Quote:ITA Kathy. Writing makes a soap and this soap is drowning because the writing is so bad not the actors. The best actors in the world couldn't do anything with the material they're given. I don't care where they move nothing will change in Charles Pratt is still writing this show and AMC should be off the air in about six months. ITA and will add this...The move isn't going to improve AMC....... As long as Frons & Pratt are calling the shots there is no way this show will survive either one of them...Unless someone as Disney starts too give a damn about ABC daytime, I'm betting AMC or Fratt's version of AMC will be off the air 6 months after the move...It's not what I want, but I see the writing on the wall...I feel for the actors/actresses and for us fans who have held on, but the likes of Frons/Pratt/Guza are killing daytime...... Giving it a slow, painful, sad death...

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I can think of one good thing that could happen moving to LA. I have thought for a while that Mary Beth Evans would be a great Liza, one who would be believable. She is on the west coast & Days isn't using her like they should from what I hear.JL just doesn't fit the role & Mary Beth could do it & do it well!

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Marybeth could play the old Liza, but she's not sleazy enough to play Liza the way the character is being written today. Marybeth would be ashamed to play such a tramp.

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LOL mygoodness nooo we need Mary Beth Evans for Katherine Bell LOL

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Has there been any announcement of who is going and who isn't? Thought Labor Day was the cut off date.

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I really liked Katherine, but some times she was put in the back ground too much. Mary Beth was n't giving the chance to shine. I can see that lady as Liza..the old Liza

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Unless there's something in this week's SOD, you haven't missed anything. We're still waiting to hear. I have a hunch we're not going to lose very many, but with Erica quitting New Beginnings, she may not be front an center as usual. I can't imagine Susan not staying. She's considered the backbone of AMC, although I got along just fine without her when she took time off to star on Broadway.

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Quote:Unless there's something in this week's SOD, you haven't missed anything. We're still waiting to hear. I have a hunch we're not going to lose very many, but with Erica quitting New Beginnings, she may not be front an center as usual. I can't imagine Susan not staying. She's considered the backbone of AMC, although I got along just fine without her when she took time off to star on Broadway. I think if she stays it will be very limited. She lives on Long Island all her life and her husbands business is here. I can't imagine her leaving. I can see her commuting every once in a while but live in CA, I just don't see her doing that. Too much here for her. AMC hasn't really been writing for her in a while. If Jackson is leaving why not have them get back together and have them go off somewhere together and have her visit every few months.

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She won't move,but I think she'll still be on some. For awhile she's been out more than in. I know some of that has to do with her other projects, but is that the only reason she has been on so much less compared to 10 & 20 years ago? I would like tosee her have a "Tony Geary" contract. Too many have been pushed to the back burner on all the ABC soaps. Doesn't ABC know that those of us who watched 10, 20 years ago are still here watching?

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I'd love to see them write Erica and Jackson together again, but I don't see that happening. They won't even keep Jackson around with Greenlee coming back, so I can't see them giving us an Erica/Jackson reunion either. That would be too much like giving the viewers what they want to see, and we can't have that, can we??

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Is it now for sure that Greenlee is coming back? Why not have people just move away instead of always killing them off,but not really killing them. That bugs me more in soap land than anything.

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Well, we know David is keeping someone in Gloucester and all the written previews have been saying Greenlee is "presumed" dead. So, here's another miraculous resurrection! Wasn't Rebecca's reason for leaving this second time because her life with her husband is in LA?

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Some poster wrote that 'with Jackson going'...um...he's gone!This move is going to hurt in the short run, but in the long run...might just save the show. Crap writing is still crap writing, but if you can make crap for less, you will have crap longer to enjoy with friends that also love and are loyal to crap.But it is crappy for the crew....

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I hope Grenlee returns. I am tired of Ryan having goo goo eyes for Erica, it grosses me out. Not because of the age difference but because of their family connection. She is his sons grandmother.

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Quote:Some poster wrote that 'with Jackson going'...um...he's gone!This move is going to hurt in the short run, but in the long run...might just save the show. Crap writing is still crap writing, but if you can make crap for less, you will have crap longer to enjoy with friends that also love and are loyal to crap.But it is crappy for the crew.... This move isn't going to save anything. Crap writing is crap writing regardless from which coast it emanates. The move should have been considered after they saw what their ratings were this summer.Their focus on Jake and Amanda, two morons, with no substance, Annie who just needs to die, and Liza whose portrayer is as exciting to watch as a cigar store Indian and this interminable murder mystery has brought them the lowest ratings ever. After GL is gone, they will be in the basement with OLTL. They took a big chance on having Annie , Liza and Jake and Amanda in the forefront. And Randi, OMG, she is painful to watch. Maybe it was a test to see how they would fare without their heavy hitters, Erica, Adam, Zach and Kendall, and Tad should their portrayers not make the move to LA. If they had waited , cancellation may have been the decision rather than moving.Pratt's writing is superficial and the actors that he focused on this summer aren't interesting enough or have enough chemistry with each other to overcome his incompetent writing. You may not be a fan of Zach and Kendall but their portrayers insane chemistry and talent was able to overcome the poor writing they have been given for over a year now. Now poor Thorsten Kaye is stuck with Jamie Luner whose portrayal of Liza is wooden and immovable and who brings nothing to the role. he has nothing to work with. David Canary is stuck yet again with a character that castrated him a la Krystal,and is one dimensional.I hope these ratings are a wake up call for tptb to hire a writer more suited and competent to write AMC, one who will respect the genre, the history of the show and the integrity of the characters and not write plot after plot .Otherwise, I Would rather see AMC close that album forever.

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And Randi, OMG, she is painful to watch. She is painful to watch. My daughter noticed that when she had a scene with Jesse after giving the baby back, that was about the best acting we saw her do.

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The whole mess is a real shame.....sad.

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I just read on another site that most everyone is staying on the show. Those who do not want to live in LA will just travel to the west coast & pre-tape shows. They do not have a full list, but what I read shows thats Erica, Kendall & Zack will still be on the show.My question is, as much as Kendall & Zach are on how long will continue to communte back & forth??

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Quote:I just read on another site that most everyone is staying on the show. Those who do not want to live in LA will just travel to the west coast & pre-tape shows. They do not have a full list, but what I read shows thats Erica, Kendall & Zack will still be on the show.My question is, as much as Kendall & Zach are on how long will continue to communte back & forth?? I have to say I don't believe that. Thorston said that he would never ever be a Dad that was three thousand miles away from his kids and with Kendall having a baby in real life, I can't picture her leaving a new born to travel to work. I am not saying you are wrong I am just saying maybe the web site doesn't have all the facts yet. But who knows AMC is suppose to make an official announcement soon.

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I also can't see her leaving a new born, but you never know...I still say the perfect answer is to move to LV. I think they both would be great additions to OLTL. I wish someone would come out & say for sure who is staying & who is going. They don't have to move out there just commute back & forth.if willing.

 

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