It is sad but I tell you once they canceled Guiding Light I had a feeling soaps are on their way out. I think it is all just done. The writing as you said is awful. Where is there a storyline that is believable. Erica's rape, born? OMG. The beginning of the end. I feel bad because all those actors are good and they will be out of job along with everyone who has worked on those shows for years. I think with the internet and everything else the soap has run its course. It is so sad.

I agree when they did the Erica baby survived the abortion kinda lost it for me. Dont really watch much these days. I did like the Zack/Greenlee trapped story but now Greenlee not telling Ryan that Madison is having his baby another old storyline that has been done sooooo many times. I heard a rumor that AMC may be combined with OLTL does that mean all the younger actors will be gone and it will be an older soap

I don't see them getting rid of the younger ones

What the hell does Tori Spelling have to say that I want to hear? Nada!I said this last year before the show moved out west that it couldn't survive with this cast of characters. It isn't all the bad writing, there are no characters that are worth tuning in for everyday. Rylee has killed this show.

I just can't believe it has come down to this. I know it's either OLTL or AMC, but wow. So sad. I really wish someone would invest in AMC's writing like they are doing over at OLTL. I haven't watched OLTL since there was a Tina on it and the last couple of months it has been enjoyable. I really think the lack of vets has hurt AMC beyond repair. If they had Zach, Brooke, Adam, Joe, and Dixie it would help. And investing in Colby as their up and coming generation is a mistake. Take a cue from Bold & the Beautiful: age Junior, Kathy and Jenny. Bring back another actor as Jamie Martin and have him go after Amanda.Is there no one behind the scenes fighting for this soap? Have they all but give up? Agnes Nixon??

[quoteIs there no one behind the scenes fighting for this soap? Have they all but give up? Agnes Nixon?? The only ones that seem to fighting for this show are the fans. At least that's the way it seems. The show is woefully over budget and has been for some time, yet the person responsible for this is still there, Julie Hanan Carruthers. Why wasn't she replaced with someone who can keep the show on budget yet produce a well put together, good looking show? Frons hasn't been able to get the writing under control since McTavish. Pratt all but destroyed this show and was fired too late. Lorraine Broderick did nothing to correct the mess he made, she just swept it all under the rug. Then the bad move to LA which cost us David Canary, Thorsten Kaye, Julia Barr, Ray MacDonnell and left us with JR, fake Bianca,Liza, Marissa, KWAK, Caleb, the morons Jake and Amanda, the much maligned Rylee who have just about killed this show with their ubiquitous presence. And now we have the awful Griffin who cannot act his way out of a paper bag if it was wet at both ends. These are not likable characters. If the writing was above par maybe something could be made of these characters. With the exception of JR, who only works within the presence of Adam, none of them were developed well enough to care about any of them .I'm not sure it can be saved at this point. If they moved back to NY and got some of their core characters back and a writer who cared enough to fight for it maybe there would be a chance. But it needs a better EP first. An EP that is willing to crack the whip with production costs and ax the dead wood, Randi, Liza, Kwak, etc. it could stand a chance. But someone needs to care enough about the show for this to happen.

AMC has struggled with few positives for a long time. They're lacking in a leading man, and please, no one tell me that Michael Nouri is an adequate replacement for David Canary, or that Jordi Vilasuso can make people forget Thorsten Kaye. The actors currently on screen (with the exception of MEK, IMO) cannot drive story as leading men, and that includes Cameron Mathison and RPG. VI plays a villain and should not be a leading man. His villainy every day of every week got on my nerves when he was on so often last year in the Rylee story. AMC also lacks great romances. AMC pulled Jerica apart with this Caleb nonsense. Jamanda are a good couple, but not a great one. Jesse and Angie barely have had a story in 12 months, and even their obstacles are minor in the grand scheme of things. Zendall have been finally built up to be a tremendous supercouple, and all it took was TK's exit and "killing off" Zach to do it. AMC focuses too much on newbies like Caleb, Asher, Cara and Griffin. Someone asked this question on another board: what has making Caleb a Cortlandt brought AMC? He lives in Wildwind, he works with Erica, but truly, AMC has only paid lipservice to any ties he has to Palmer. He's not believable as a long lost nephew we'd never heard of. And IMO, the focus on Latino-American viewers by making Griffin and Cara a key family in PV has been a bust. ABC definitely wanted to attract the telenovela audience, and it's failed. AMC lacks good story and good production on any given day, but I can say the same about alot of other soaps which look cheap, have WTH? inconsistencies in any given day, and have fans screaming about plot devices, just like AMC. But other soaps have great couples that their fans are passionate about, and leading actors who are compelling, and more veterans used more often in their cast. AMC...doesn't. And if you don't have those things, what do you have?I don't think AMC can be saved, though I still hope ABC will consider merging OLTL with AMC. With every interview and scoop I read about what's coming up for AMC, I can't see how they'll get an influx of viewers to save the show. Jerica/Caleb, Jamanda/Cara, and the Ricky/Kendall/Griffin disaster won't cut it, I'm sorry to say.A friend of mine mentioned to me that when AMC is cancelled, they'd be wise to give the fans happy endings all the way around, with Jerica marrying, Zach returning to Kendall, Tad and Cara falling for each other, Adam and Brooke showing up for Jerica's wedding in their own happy bliss, etc. If ABC does this, they'll preserve some good will with the audience, and maybe viewers will stick around and tune in to GH and OLTL. Otherwise, the bitterness will carry over to those shows, and we'll turn away, and ABC would be wise not to do that when they need viewers more than ever. It's a great thought, IMO.

Well, they relocated the whole show, cast and most of the crew to LA....I would hope there is SOME level of commitment from ABC to keep trying. As for blending AMC and OLTL, they are now on two different coasts...there would be no benefit. OLTL is still only an hour, so I do not see how it could work. If it went 90 minutes...maybe a few AMC characters, like the Kanes, or Martins. Moving a few over to GH would make more sense, since they are all LA-based.I dunno....it just breaks my heart. I would love the opportunity to write arc stories for one of the three ABC soaps. Wouldn't even know where to begin!

Quote:Well, they relocated the whole show, cast and most of the crew to LA....I would hope there is SOME level of commitment from ABC to keep trying. As for blending AMC and OLTL, they are now on two different coasts...there would be no benefit. OLTL is still only an hour, so I do not see how it could work. If it went 90 minutes...maybe a few AMC characters, like the Kanes, or Martins. Moving a few over to GH would make more sense, since they are all LA-based.I dunno....it just breaks my heart. I would love the opportunity to write arc stories for one of the three ABC soaps. Wouldn't even know where to begin! But they are not all LA based. Some of the actors are still commuting from NYC (SL, DM, others..)and a number of actors such as David Canary and Thorsten Kaye refused to move. I don't see how blending with GH would ever work. PC and Llanview are neighboring towns and there has been crossover in the past with storylines. I can see how that might work..lose the dead wood on both shows and make one tighter show.However, you need creative people behind the scenes to make it work successfully.. I am not sure they are up for the challenge. But creating something new might work better than what they are doing now. It can't get much worse.

One thing that sticks to me regarding the writing and charactors is that if you watch GH the Spencers and the Q's moved to town and are now after great writing are the top familys of Port Charles (well the Q's are now being ruined due to GH's own issues w/ lazy writers) . To me if you have a good writer you can have a good story. In Pine Valley the Cortlands where new to town so where the Chandlers thanks to good writing they became root families of PV. IN the 80's our soaps went to the top. Back in a time when they had less to work with as far as what would be accepted on TV. Now years later the writers have more room to create adn all they do is re-write the old stories from years past ( sometimes less than a year) that is lazy and proves to me that the writers are not being creative.

You writing a arc is a great idea. As for blending the shows... I'm not for that mainly due to the fact that they will keep charactors who should go and fire the ones who need to stay. I like OLTL and I don't want it messed up. It does make more since to blend GH & AMC due to location but you know all we'd have is a Sonny/ Ryan show. I can't stomach that unless Jason kills off Ryan.

I just read the Golden interview. If its rumor then why the 1-800# ? The sad part is unless the show changes internally then nothing changes. We the fans have stuck by as long as we can take it. I have watched since I was a kid when my mom had it on. As a teen I had it on. I am now 42 and all the ABC soaps have always been a part of my life. The problem is AMC is chasing us away with these stories. We have been very loyal but one can only stomach so much. The only part of the show I don't turn off is Tad/ Cara & Jake/ Amanda. I can not stand the rest. I try every night but never seem to attached anymore. At one I was glued to the screen but I haven't been in a very long time.